My vert grip emag

[Joni]

I'm having some problems. When I shoot fast with reballs it chuffs, like the lvl10 comes into play. I beleive it can be one of three things:
1. I outshoot the egg I have. Since I didn't have fresh batteries for it, it's even more possible. I did cap the board to 13, and it still did the same. Is it possible that a egg with low batteries can be outshot at 13 bps?
2. The lvl10 act's up due to the low fps the reballs require (215 fps)
3. Something with my noid setup. I really don't beleive so since it shoots fine without paint. No hickups or anything. Is it possible that something could be wrong with the noid setup anyway?

Anyone that have any ideas?

[the electrician]

I believe the answer is #2.

remember the succesful operation of the lvl10 is dependant upon a balance of forces. bolt piston force, against the bolt spring force, o-ring friction, and the back pressure created from shooting a ball.

the operating pressure has to be at the proper level for it to work at the right speed. otherwise you will outrun it with your set cycle time. not to mention the bolt force will be too weak also.

to test it properly you definitely need to use decent, real paintballs and fresh batteries in everything that takes them.

otherwiseit won't be a test of what it really needs to do, and your kind of wasting your time.

[Joni]

Yes, I know. I'm waiting for my rechargables to arrive. And about testing with real paint, I really need to get it to work with reballs since that's what I will be shooting at all practices for a couple of months

[jamescell]

you can shoot lower speeds more reliably if you use a lighter bolt spring. I belive there is a section covering this in the level 10 instalation cd

[Joni]

Yes, I know. I use the shortest spring

[ScatterPlot]

You might try getting a spare spring (or maybe just your x-long one) and clipping it.

[the electrician]

I see, so you are going to use the reballs for practice.

why do they require the lower 215 fps?

are they the same wieght as paintballs?

I don't know anything about these reballs.

what bore size are they?

a possible solution might be a larger bore barrel. something that would waste a bit of air and give you a lower fps. then you could turn the pressure back up, thus maybe helping the lvl10 to work properly.

first off though, fresh batteries in the loader when they arrive. then see if it still has the same symptoms.

[Joni]

They are a little heavier and harder than regular paintballs, so when shooting at my teammates I lower the velocity. Otherwise they just hurt too much. They are very small bore, i.e rolling out of .679 freak inserts.

[the electrician]

well, you could try using a larger insert and see if it lowers the velocity and check to see if it affects your accuracy. then if it works well, you can bring the operating pressure back up close to 470 psi and perhaps the lvl 10 will perform better.

the other idea is to use a choke in the bolt. I've been working on that idea.
that would be an alternative that would not affect accuracy, but lower the velocity at the same operating psi.

once again, this is all just if the new batteries in the loader don't cure the problem.

[Yuck-Mag]

well, you could try using a larger insert and see if it lowers the velocity and check to see if it affects your accuracy. then if it works well, you can bring the operating pressure back up close to 470 psi and perhaps the lvl 10 will perform better.

the other idea is to use a choke in the bolt. I've been working on that idea.
that would be an alternative that would not affect accuracy, but lower the velocity at the same operating psi.

once again, this is all just if the new batteries in the loader don't cure the problem.

Choking the bolt sounds better but how would you do that then youd need to set it its probably easier to set it to 470psi?

[the electrician]

I'm sorry, but your wording has made it hard to understand your question.

please explain again.

[hitech]

BTW, a hyperframe can fire at 20 bps fullauto. Go Here to view two short videos (HYPER1.AVI AND HYPER2.AVI) of my old level 10 hyperframed classic doing 20bps fullauto.

[Joni]

Ok. then there is something strange with my setup. What dwell was that hyperframe running?

[hitech]

[the electrician]

that's not makin' much sense to me.

you show:
15-10
Fd-50
Fn-30

then you explain using Fd-20 and Fn-50.

fire number, that is the solenoid dwell timein millisec? that has to be the total cycle time. the total cycle can't be more than 50 msec, if it's going to fire 20 bps.


fire delay? frequency in microseconds? what is it sending pulsed DC to the solenoid? controlling the power with pulse width modulation?

please explain.

for the automag, you really only neede control of the solenoid energize time, the total cycle time. you're saying you can change how much current the solenoid gets?