My vert grip emag

[hitech]

that's not makin' much sense to me.

you show:
15-10
Fd-50
Fn-30

then you explain using Fd-20 and Fn-50.

fire number, that is the solenoid dwell timein millisec? that has to be the total cycle time. the total cycle can't be more than 50 msec, if it's going to fire 20 bps.

The numbers in the explanations are the defaults. The default settings do not work well.

That's not makin' much sense to me.

Fire delay? Frequency in microseconds? What is it sending pulsed DC to the solenoid? Controlling the power with pulse width modulation?

The current going to the solenoid is pulsed (probably a pulsed ground). It is a technique to increase battery life. Fire delay is just the term they used for the setting. It doesn't make much sense and drove me crazy until I talked with Denise Ashley and got the complete explanation. I was disagreeing with him about what the recommended setting should be.

For the automag, you really only need control of the solenoid energize time, the total cycle time. You're saying you can change how much current the solenoid gets?

Yes and yes, at least according to Denise. The first number is the amount of "energy" going to the solenoid. I couldn't get a better explanation than that. The second number is the frequency of the current "going to" the solenoid (again, I assume they pulse the ground). The last number is the solenoid dwell.

Hope that helps. The explanations came from Denise Ashley (the designer of hyperframe). I do not have schematics of the board or source code for the software so I am relying his explanations. Seemed like a reliable source.

[the electrician]

still doesn't make much sense to me, but I do appreciate it. what decides total cycle time?

it is kinda cool that you can adjust the wattage consumed by the solenoid. an effort to increase battery efficiency.

my solution is a little bitty solenoid valve. takes forever to drain the battery

I'll have to interogate this mr. ashley :)

thanks again.

[hitech]

The "bolt" decides the cycle time of the marker. The last number in the hyperframe settings decides how long the solenoid stays energized. It should be a little longer than the bolt takes to cycle to avoid wearing parts.

[the electrician]

what I mean is, how does it know when it can accept another trigger input signal? if you don't control it, it will of course try and shoot too fast. it has to control cycle time some how, or it won't let the dump chamber recharge all the way before it tries to shoot again.

I'm using 30 msec of energize time on my solenoid valve. this seems to work well for my set-up. I usually set rof timer at 63 msec. it shoots very consistently at 16 bps with no eyes.

[Joni]

I got my 9.6V rechargables, and it works like a dream. No chuffing anymore, I'm not sure why it did that, let's hope it wont happen again. I raised the dwell to 20ms since I started to se slight wear on the bolt. I'm still going to have to find out the battery life, but even if it's only 2000-3000 shots, I'm fine. I just have to be able to get through one day of playing, then I can recharge the batterys.

I still can't get it to go FA more than 17 cps reliably, but that's not really a problem, 17 is plenty fast. 17 bps FA sounds scary.

[luke]

I actually don't know the brand of the cap. I ordered it from the same place as the noid, and I said I wanted a hyperframe cap,

I thought I read in an earlier post that you used a Hyperframe 'noid?
Here it sounds like you didn't get it from CF. (?)

[Joni]

It's originally from CF, but I didn't get it directly from them.

[luke]

I see.

I've got an idea I'm working on, so I was interested in pricing.

Thanks.

[Duck Hunt]

Alright, Idiot time.

How do you wire that capacitor??? I have a morlock I need to put into a gun and all I need now is to wire it together but I can't figure the capacitor out. I've wired a bunch for music applications but not this kind of thing, please help!

Sean

[trains are bad]

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Ignore the 470uf.

[txaggie08]

scuse my ignorance, but is that noid pulling back on the sear or pushing it. Were can i get one of those hyperframe solenoids btw?

[hitech]

what I mean is, how does it know when it can accept another trigger input signal?

I don't know if the new board buffers shots, but it appears that it does. So, it accepts a trigger input, waits for x amount of time (based on ROF settings) and then fires. If another trigger input happens while it is waiting it "saves" that one and starts the firing cycle after the previous one completes.

[Joni]

The noid is pushing the sear.

[the electrician]

I don't know if the new board buffers shots, but it appears that it does. So, it accepts a trigger input, waits for x amount of time (based on ROF settings) and then fires. If another trigger input happens while it is waiting it "saves" that one and starts the firing cycle after the previous one completes.

you said based on ROF settings. what settings? that's my whole point really. with other guns you set a total cycle time, or and energize time, then a delay before it can fire again(which ends up being the same thing) so what is the setting on the centerflag board?

don't say the bolt decides the ROF, because I don't belive the bolt is wired to the board and there are no "eyes" involved right?

see what I mean? I'm still not understanding.

thanks.

[Mole1119]

I'm actaually starting a similar project for my mechatronics class, going to use the same frame but I'm going to attempt to build my own board so I can change the programing at will. Hopefully it turns out as nice, good job.