Why not restart production on E-Mags and X-Mags?

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  • boroballer
    Registered User
    • Mar 2003
    • 431

    #1

    Why not restart production on E-Mags and X-Mags?

    Now, I think we all know about the poop that went on with Smart Parts patenting the electro stuff in paintball and serving Cease and Desist letters to companies (AKA, etc) that continued to produce said markers without their permission. Well, these days, dozens of companies produce electro markers, and I'm pretty sure none of them (Spyder, DP, WGP, PMI, Bob Long, Tippmann, PE, etc) pay royalties.

    That said, why not crank up the old machines and start churning out our beloved mags again. Sure, the market is small, but we've got the technology, and if we produce enough (granted, again, I'm unaware how deep the market is) then the per unit price is sure to be somewhat lower than it was a few years ago.

    It's just with E-Mags and X-Mags selling for as much as they do now, and Smart Parts being seemingly inept at enforcing their patents, why not stop whining about how much we hate the Gardeners and their evil empire and start making some competition.
  • MANN
    I am in TN. GO VOLS.
    • Apr 2006
    • 4266

    #2
    because the demand is not high enough.

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    • questionful
      LNIB
      • Dec 2006
      • 1416

      #3
      Are you sure none of them pay royalties?? I'm no expert on the matter, but I thought WDP and DYE were the only electro-producing companies that didn't pay royalties, and that was because of some technical lawyer stuff from the start.

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      • snoopay700
        Serious About Men

        • Jan 2006
        • 3071

        #4
        I tell you want, find about 100 people (i think that's what tom said it would take) and get them to pay AGD the money in advance for the emags to insure that the money gets paid to them and people don't back out, and then they might make emags again.
        Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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        • Tunaman
          Specialized AGD Tech

          • Dec 2000
          • 8643

          #5
          I'll build you 100 emags right now. Show me the money!
          Email me for low prices on ALL AGD Products and more. [email protected]
          Tunamart

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          • Resurection
            bringing the game back
            • Aug 2005
            • 923

            #6
            Originally posted by Tunaman
            I'll build you 100 emags right now. Show me the money!
            Show me the email/phone logs! Call me back buddy!

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            • Smoothice
              Registered User

              • Nov 2006
              • 4579

              #7
              Originally posted by Tunaman
              I'll build you 100 emags right now. Show me the money!

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              • Spencer
                Registered User
                • Nov 2004
                • 292

                #8
                Originally posted by snoopay700
                I tell you want, find about 100 people (i think that's what tom said it would take) and get them to pay AGD the money in advance for the emags to insure that the money gets paid to them and people don't back out, and then they might make emags again.
                Thats rediculous, thats not how you sell a product..

                BUT I would buy one for sake of it..

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                • SithSteve
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 683

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Resurection
                  Show me the email...
                  I second that... still waiting for a reply too.
                  Last edited by SithSteve; 05-28-2008, 06:37 PM.

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                  • snoopay700
                    Serious About Men

                    • Jan 2006
                    • 3071

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Spencer
                    Thats rediculous, thats not how you sell a product..

                    BUT I would buy one for sake of it..
                    Well i was being ludicrous yes, but Tom even said in a previous post that he would need 100 people or so to say that they would actually buy one, and so many would also pay in advance, mainly because otherwise it would be a loss. I could be wrong, but i'm fairly certain it was something along those lines.
                    Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                    • questionful
                      LNIB
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1416

                      #11
                      That's not how you sell a product, that's why they're not selling it.

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                      • Ruler_Mark
                        AKAOG.ORG
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 2600

                        #12
                        mmmm if they would make another run of xmags im sure you could get 100 people no problem. Especially if it had a new milling pattern

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                        • ThePixelGuru
                          Guru of Pixels
                          • May 2005
                          • 1461

                          #13
                          AGD backed out of the electro market because of Smart Parts' actions. It's my understanding that they're not willing to risk a legal fiasco to make more E/XMags.

                          As for the list of companies in the first post that supposedly don't pay royalties, better double check that list. I know for a fact that some of them do and some of them don't, but other companies I have no idea about. It's hard to nail down exactly which companies do pay royalties to Smart Parts, because these license agreements almost always go hand-in-hand with a gag order.

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                          • BigEvil
                            www.BigEvilOnline.com

                            • Feb 2005
                            • 9333

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tunaman
                            I'll build you 100 emags right now. Show me the money!
                            How about one purple one?

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                            • questionful
                              LNIB
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 1416

                              #15
                              Originally posted by smoothice
                              http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/themoney.jpg
                              That should cover it!

                              What emails are we (you) talking about?

                              About how much would each X-mag cost if 100 were made pre-paid? And would any changes be made? Like in the electronics and whatnot?

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