AGD Shot Turd!!!!!

[Jenadin]

Thats one point, another is that if these doomers are so
great at predicting the future of paintball after viewing a video, why don't they get a job with Miss Cleo?

[shartley]

Jenadin

Thats one point, another is that if these doomers are so
great at predicting the future of paintball after viewing a video, why don't they get a job with Miss Cleo?

[MagDog68]

I rather enjoy little pot shots...they are usually more entertaining. Thanks Jenadin.

~Fred

[Muzikman]

Originally posted by Rooster
The only person that threatens your right to play, is you. I'm not going to be stopped by unconstitutional laws, especially when I'm playing on my own property. And as far as responsibility, if i drink till im nearly blind and jump behind the wheel of a car, thats a big problem. If i want to drink myself blind and not hurt anyone else by driving, i can do that. Someone else might feel full face protection is over-rated, and play with saftey glasses. As long as its themselves they are putting in danger, and not others, then you have no right to say whats responsible and whats not. Just like I can drink myself blind and as long as i don't drive, the only person in danger, is myself.

You would have been great friends with the temperance ladies, trying to dictate to others how they should live, and treat their own bodies. [/B]

You know, if I was the friend or family member that was playing with you on your land while you are not wearing a mask, I would refuse to play. You would probably be the first to sue my a$$ when i shot you in the eye and you went blind. And you know what? You would win that case. It pays to be stupid some times.

[hitech]

Originally posted by blackmag3
it's my opinion that paintball will never be banned as a sport. Until soccer is banned paintball will still be legal.

BTW, Paintball HAS BEEN banned before. Not only CAN it happen, it HAS happened.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Rooster
As long as its themselves they are putting in danger, and not others, then you have no right to say what's responsible and what's not.

There are existing laws to stop people from putting themselves in danger. Suicide is illegal. Many states require seat belts and motorcycle helmets. There are other laws against doing something that is "manifestly unsafe". If you hurt or kill yourself, SOMEONE else is affected by it. Even if it's only cleaning up the mess.

[Top Secret]

Originally posted by hitech


There are existing laws to stop people from putting themselves in danger. Suicide is illegal.

Now lets think about that one there for a second... Are they going to put you in jail for killing yourself?

Can't believe my tax dollars are wasted by politicians with stuff like that...

This country is EXTREMELY messed up.


And Tom, I am very happy to see your views on full-auto in paintball as stated earlier in the thread and support them fully.

-Molon Labe

[manike]

They can put you in jail if your suicide attempt is unsuccessful and in order to stop you attempting it again. The law is there to protect you from yourself...

manike

[hitech]

Originally posted by Top Secret
Now lets think about that one there for a second... Are they going to put you in jail for killing yourself?

That is not how the law is used. It is used to STOP someone from killing themselves. If you attempt suicide the police can forcibly stop you, among other things.

[Linx]

Has everybody fallen off their rocker?

6 pages of posts! Over a publicity stunt? I've just spent a half hour reading these posts yet still no one has been able to change my opinion. Many good points were made but the fact remains that it was done to make people talk. Would we be having this discussion if the marker was an Angel? Probably. Some of us would be condemning WDP for the stunt and the other half would be wishing our marker could do that. You can't blame Tom. If he didn't do it they probably would have used another marker. Besides controversy sells. It may not all be good but it still sells. Please Tom don't listen to them, make it double barreled, triple scoped, and heat seeking. O...and full auto. People pay more to have the biggest, fastest, best, "insert adjective here". If they need it or not is not the question. How many people would rather have a Ford Pinto over a Dodge Viper? Really? They both get you from point A to B. Ya, full auto may be unnecessary. What can you do with FA that can't be done with 6 shot burst? But, that's besides the point. AGD doesn't sell FA markers. But they do sell the fastest. That is the point that was trying to be made. And for all of you how complain about being unsafe. You're far more likely to get killed in a car accident on your way home then be killed by a paintball. Even if you were wearing you proper safety equipment (seat belt, air bag, etc.). That doesn't mean I'm for playing without it. I'm just saying that even in a designated goggle free zone a player can forget his plug and take out an eye. It's and unsafe world. Lets try to set good examples to our kids. But realize how many people have been hurt while playing paintball compared to any other sport. I think you would feel a whole lot safer about the sport your in.


Jesse

[raehl]

Just because you can...

Doesn't mean you should.

Marketing doesn't do you any good if it just gets your product banned from the market or alienates potential customers. There are a whole slew of potential consequences of that video that have not been (and won't be) mentioned here because I don't want to be giving anyone any ideas, but are the kind of thing that could severely impact AGD's ability to do business, not to mention all of our abilities to play paintball.

- Chris

[Jenadin]

I would say that the previous posters position has reached critical mass as he is now forced to defend it with the old "reasons he'd rather not mention or he'd have to kill us" defence......(yawn)

[raehl]

chuckle...

Actually, all the reasons I've already mentioned should be MORE than suficient, and if they're not, the extra ones I'm not mentioning most likely wouldn't work. But if you don't believe me, feel free to drop me a pm/email and I'll be happy to explain them. I just don't want to put them on a web board where 1) The less scrupulous reader may actually try some of it 2) The anti-paintball zealot may use it for material.

- Chris

[manike]

Originally posted by Jenadin
I would say that the previous posters position has reached critical mass as he is now forced to defend it with the old "reasons he'd rather not mention or he'd have to kill us" defence......(yawn)

If you can't see the reasons then you need to open your eyes

Somethings don't need to be said or shouldn't, in the same way some images and acts should not be presented or condoned.

If you really need it spelling out to you then it will take more than the combined efforts of this board to make you see it.

manike

[Jenadin]

Well, I am still waiting and neither of you have yet to establish a causal link between the destruction of paintball as we know it, and a publicity stunt. If we keep this discussion up just a bit longer, you will be proven wrong by default. Have either of you ever considered joining your local chapters of the Womans Auxilery? Perhaps there, your physcic revelations might fall on sympathetic ears.