AGD Shot Turd!!!!!

[shartley]

[raehl]

There is no hypocracy.

The rate of fire is irrelevant.

This is a video of a person wearing armor being shot by a paintball marker while cursing/begging for it to stop accompanied by pictures of his shirt being shot full of holes and the damage done THROUGH the armor.

You are looking at this logically, and the people who are going to use this against us are not. The response from laypersons who view this is not going to be "Oh, this was done in a controlled environment with safety equipment and an armor plate", the response is going to be "What would happen if this was done in an uncontrolled environment?"


I really wish you guys would listen to the experts on this issue - those of us in paintball who have worked on legislative efforts in the past *ALL* agree that this video is extremely damaging.

- Chris

[iisp0tii]

i believe army is right!

all hail the borg general TOM KAYE!!!!!!!!!

[Muzikman]

[Jenadin]

"I really wish you guys would listen to the experts on this issue - those of us in paintball who have worked on legislative efforts in the past *ALL* agree that this video is extremely damaging."

Funny, my Mom never told me not to watch pro wrestling because she thinks I'll jump on my little brothers back. However, pro wrestling is still much, much larger than the "experts" have made paintball using a conservative approach.
Awaiting your orders Captain!

[Scooter/Cootie]

Here Here Army, well put.

Raehl, get off your soapbox and let someone else take a turn. Your opinion is now well known, accepted by some and not accepted by others. I don't mind the fact the individuals will respond to a post but you keep trying to hit the nail on the head, and IMO, have taken the display out of context and have missed badly.

The purpose of this video, and it being created as part of a "radio" broadcast, does not negitively effect our beloved sport. Correct me if I'm wrong but I assume that you have never listened to Mancow's Morning Madhouse? Well, I have and let this 'expert' tell you something. This show's sole purpose is to do the 'extreme', the unexpected, the unbelieveable. To be a "Madhouse". Shooting Turd, who had proper saftey equipment in addition to an added piece of saftey in the rubber mat, only enforces Mancows theatrics. Thus drawing his audience closer to the reason they turn in to listen in the first place, to listen to an entertaining radio show. By taking this video out of context (and yes, you have) you have instigated this whole needless debate.

I really wish you guys would listen to the experts on this issue - those of us in paintball who have worked on legislative efforts in the past *ALL* agree that this video is extremely damaging.

And you call yourself an expert? I'd love to see your credentials then. Actively marketing paintball to highschools is a great promotion to paintball as a sport and I applaud you for your efforts and being engaged in "legislative efforts" may give you experience but if these are your only credentials, Im sorry, but you are sorely lacking in the 'expert' department.

While I am no marketing expert, I have to agree that this does offer a certain 'shock' value to paintball. You have to keep in mind the audience that Mancow's show caters to. 14 - 25 year olds. Any radio or TV exec will tell you that this is the most covented age group that they can possibly attract. Its a group made up of individuals who have a lot of money and little responsibility (in comparison to 40 & 50 year olds). Thus, they are more likely to be spontanious and rush out to purchase a "toy" that they just heard about and thought was "cool". If the reason to do this stunt was only to allow people of the 14 - 25 age bracket, who have never heard of paintball before, to think that, "Wow! I've never heard of paintball but if a gun can shoot 20bps and rip up Turd, it must be cool! I've got to get me an E-Mag!" then my friend this stunt has done its purpose well. I congradulate both Tom and Mancow's Morning Madhouse in their ingenious way to advertise our sport to the average "Joe Schmoe".

The reason that all of you are concerned, namely you Raehl, Shartly, Manike, and Bill Mills, is that this stunt can show paintball "at its worst" and can be taken in the wrong way and used against us in the future. But, is this not true in any other sport? What about football? Or Manike, what about Soccer (football to you)? Or even a lesser known sport like Cricket or LaCrosse? There is an abundance of examples of stunts that are taken from other sports that can be turned around and used against them. To show others that "you shouldn't play that sport. See what they're doing? Its terriable! I'll never play that!". This is but one small stunt that "may" be taken by someone who wants to bend and twist it to their will, and you are getting your knickers in a bunch.

I saw here here to Army, Mancow, and most importantly Tom for doing what they believe is right. If you dont agree with it, too damn bad. Your opinions is now well known, accepted by some and not accepted by others.

Thats my 10.02, take it as you wish.

[shartley]

[AGD]

So far today I have been on the phone with JJ, Jessica Sparks and Forest Brown. Things are getting interesting.

AGD

[bunkerhugger]

Shartley did you just say no offense was intended then imply that someone would impugn their integrity by blindly following the sponsor of their team?

[shartley]

Shartley did you just say no offense was intended then imply that someone would impugn their integrity by blindly following the sponsor of their team?

[pumpamatic]

Ok, so I just watched Turd and Johnny Knoxville get shot up. Difference? Turd had a mask and armor. Turd was shown without any welts. Johnny was shown with about 20 welts. Now, why haven't I heard anything on these boards about how Jackass is ruining our sport of paintball. Honestly, if Tom wants to gain some publicity, let him. If Jackass wants to gain some publicity, let them. We'll just wait and see if anyone wishes to attack paintball on these. How are we supposed to get the many idiotic paintball videos off of networks like Kazaa/Morpheus?

[shartley]

Now, why haven't I heard anything on these boards about how Jackass is ruining our sport of paintball.

Actually, there were LOTS of posts about how bad JackA$$ was for Paintball. It was not an out of the way issue, but one that got lots of attention here on AO.

Honestly, if Tom wants to gain some publicity, let him.

If Jackass wants to gain some publicity, let them.

We'll just wait and see if anyone wishes to attack paintball on these. How are we supposed to get the many idiotic paintball videos off of networks like Kazaa/Morpheus?

[AGD]

i have caved...

the best point made is that this video could be used by someone to show it out of context against the sport

I have re-edited it to insure that if shown it can be easily explained

new vid is up now

[shartley]

[RoadDawg]

Link to one of the many Jackass threads: Jackass thread