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  • nerobro
    Registered User
    • Oct 2001
    • 923

    #91
    I'm going to be at the IAO with a pump. I play all the time with my PGP, and won sportsmanship at skyball :-)
    To be an AGD supporter, one cannot be an AGD bigot. -Nero

    Truth is a complex thing. One must govern by simplicity. -M. Mercier, special counsel to his Majesty for domestic matters. The Brotherhood of the Wolf

    "You can't outrun Death forever, but you can make the bastard work for it."

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    • 314159
      Registered User
      • Nov 2001
      • 555

      #92
      Originally posted by joeyjoe367
      wow. Interesting topic.

      ...on a side note, I don't think that it would matter if you could get a spyder to shoot 40 bps anyway. The mass of the spyder's bolt AND hammer (where the mag only has a bolt, and SB2 is uber light ) is pretty dang heavy, and when you've got that amount of mass reciprocating at 40hz....

      ...can you say "recoil" ?
      it is an intresting sensation, why would you not want your marker to kick a little, it has a nice feel. and if you are throwing that much paint, it is kinda nice to have a little of a spread on it . go try and shoot a vm-68 magnum, that thing has kick (due to it's massive bolt), and it is fun to shoot.

      as far as the weight thing goes, i think that the derlin bolts for the bushmaster might have the superbolt 2 beat in terms of weight.
      As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

      sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

      turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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      • Butterfingers
        PhD in Automagology
        • Jan 2001
        • 2263

        #93
        Originally posted by 314159


        it is an intresting sensation, why would you not want your marker to kick a little, it has a nice feel. and if you are throwing that much paint, it is kinda nice to have a little of a spread on it . go try and shoot a vm-68 magnum, that thing has kick (due to it's massive bolt), and it is fun to shoot.

        as far as the weight thing goes, i think that the derlin bolts for the bushmaster might have the superbolt 2 beat in terms of weight.
        You have to add the ram assembly to the wt too. That is also reciprocating mass.
        Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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        • nerobro
          Registered User
          • Oct 2001
          • 923

          #94
          Those "ram asemblys" also have hammers on them ;-) but they also accelerate slower than the spyder. So you'll feel less force. total impulse will be in the same reigon, but it's over more time...
          To be an AGD supporter, one cannot be an AGD bigot. -Nero

          Truth is a complex thing. One must govern by simplicity. -M. Mercier, special counsel to his Majesty for domestic matters. The Brotherhood of the Wolf

          "You can't outrun Death forever, but you can make the bastard work for it."

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          • 314159
            Registered User
            • Nov 2001
            • 555

            #95
            i guess i could edit that to a derlin shocker bolt..... but shockers max out at just above 10bps, so that is not a good example.

            didn't work on the program for the board tonight, (ended up at a friends house). i will have the board done on sat (unless digikey shipment has fallen through, which is never has so far)

            oh well, on with life, i need to go to bed and get a little sleep before i wake up early and sing the company loyality song for the last time this week.
            As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

            sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

            turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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            • 314159
              Registered User
              • Nov 2001
              • 555

              #96
              anyone want to take a guess on how fast i can get the thing going with a forcefeed and a better power source?

              around 16bps, the marker has problems cycling with a single 9 volt. i have an idea of a trick i can do with the board to overcome this. i will need a little time to think about how i am going to implement it though.

              i am thinking that a larger power source (which i have been using) is the best source.
              As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

              sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

              turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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              • Butterfingers
                PhD in Automagology
                • Jan 2001
                • 2263

                #97
                Hook it up to a car battery

                Originally posted by 314159
                anyone want to take a guess on how fast i can get the thing going with a forcefeed and a better power source?

                around 16bps, the marker has problems cycling with a single 9 volt. i have an idea of a trick i can do with the board to overcome this. i will need a little time to think about how i am going to implement it though.

                i am thinking that a larger power source (which i have been using) is the best source.
                Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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                • 314159
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 555

                  #98
                  some stuff just came up this weekend, have almost all the code marked up on paper, i can't wait to see the results of the actuall firing tests.
                  As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

                  sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

                  turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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                  • nerobro
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 923

                    #99
                    from this weekend we know none of our hoppers are up to the task ;-) the gun could shoot the stack dry at what ever ROF we had it set to....... and caught the next ball to fall.
                    To be an AGD supporter, one cannot be an AGD bigot. -Nero

                    Truth is a complex thing. One must govern by simplicity. -M. Mercier, special counsel to his Majesty for domestic matters. The Brotherhood of the Wolf

                    "You can't outrun Death forever, but you can make the bastard work for it."

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                    • Muzikman
                      Everything AGD
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 6229

                      #100
                      Well..bring this whole rid to the IAO and we can set it up at my place and you can use one of my warps I want to see how many BPS this thing will shoot. I also have the vid cams and software to dump it to mpg

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                      • 314159
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 555

                        #101
                        i was thinking of something to the effect of a spring loaded stick feed.

                        update, calc homework 1, working on board 0. don't worry, i am not trying to neglect it too much
                        As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

                        sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

                        turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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                        • Arturus
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 493

                          #102
                          Muzikman -

                          "Well..bring this whole rid to the IAO and we can set it up at my place and you can use one of my warps I want to see how many BPS this thing will shoot. I also have the vid cams and software to dump it to mpg"

                          Now that sounds interesting.



                          Hope to see it happen.

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                          • Muzikman
                            Everything AGD
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 6229

                            #103
                            Originally posted by 314159
                            i was thinking of something to the effect of a spring loaded stick feed.
                            Ok, I can work that out too. I have access to 20' pieces of PVC pipe...I think we could rig something up. How about air powered instead of the spring?

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                            • nerobro
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 923

                              #104
                              Glen was feeding 20bps just using an air dump setup. I think we could copy that. Just dump LOTS of air down the feed tube. Though a rock with a little slug could be effective too. I wonder if 1cfm is enough ;-)
                              To be an AGD supporter, one cannot be an AGD bigot. -Nero

                              Truth is a complex thing. One must govern by simplicity. -M. Mercier, special counsel to his Majesty for domestic matters. The Brotherhood of the Wolf

                              "You can't outrun Death forever, but you can make the bastard work for it."

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                              • 314159
                                Registered User
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 555

                                #105
                                Building M3.HEX...

                                Compiling M3.ASM:
                                Command line: "C:\PROGRA~1\MPLAB\MPASMWIN.EXE /p16F84A /q C:\PROGRA~1\MPLAB\M3.ASM"
                                Warning[224] C:\PROGRA~1\MPLAB\M3.ASM 77 : Use of this instruction is not recommended.
                                Warning[224] C:\PROGRA~1\MPLAB\M3.ASM 82 : Use of this instruction is not recommended.
                                Warning[224] C:\PROGRA~1\MPLAB\M3.ASM 95 : Use of this instruction is not recommended.

                                Build completed successfully.



                                you guys know what this means...... right?
                                As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

                                sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

                                turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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