Salm Speaks Out

[1stdeadeye]

Hahahahaha

Originally posted by pito189
FeeltheRT, that is a hillarious picture. People settle down. Who cares. He's not playing at that what the suspension was for, not Playing. He is completely within the rules this time.

He wasn't "playing" when he got in trouble was he?

Hey anyone else find Snowslide and Avalanche to be aweful similar names?

[Evil Bob]

Once one has gone down the easy path of cheating and made a habbit of cheating on a regular basis, they will stick to what comes easy.

That being said, I would not want to be associated with any team that he coaches for the simple fact that once a cheater, always a cheater. Old habbits die hard.

I got out of proball for the simple fact that we started holding cheating classes/discussions to even out the playing field (the rationale was "everyone else cheats, so why don't we?") and I refused to participate. I always held that we were better then that, we didn't need to cheat to win. Others felt differently, so I left them to their ends.

Yeah, he's got skills alright, just not any that I want to aquire.

-Evil Bob

[shartley]

Originally posted by lonsch
I love it when people on this board rag on tourney players and say that they are all cheaters. I have played tourney ball for a few years. I have also reffed at a rec field for a few months and I saw the most cheating in my life during REC GAMES!!!!!

What is wrong with you guys? You act like the saints of paintball.

I do not think what Salem did was right but im not going to bash a whole group of people because of what he did. That's kind of like saying all people that shoot mags suck at paintball....

[pito189]

Well his suspension was from playing NPPL in 2003. The mountain series isn't NPPL. Coaching a team in the NPPL is not playing.

Yes very similiar names. Snowslide is kinda corny sounding for some reason.

[FeelTheRT]

Originally posted by magman007

Why on earth would you pick up a recognized cheter to coach your team? so he can teach them how to cheet? you dont need to wipe to win, and we all know avalanche is notorious for wiping now dont we?
In a way, yes. Not necessarily teaching how to "cheat", but tactics, if you will, that are sort of on the border line that can make the difference from winning and loosing, such as effectivly shooting blind. It really depends how you define a cheater. If you speak morally, don't we all cheat? Shooting back when bunkered, having a reff check a player repeatedly to move up, shooting blind over a bunker, etc. There are ways to get around rules without acutually having to "cheat". And when your in a huge competition, people aren't as friendly anymore espeically if they have gone far.

Salm, was not, nor will he ever be better than i am. I cannot see how he could be. Unless, every shot i put on him, he happens to wipe.
isn't that a little literal? He has skill, other wise he wouldn't be in the proffesional division. You can't cheat your way through a try out.

Also, he does have a drug history, as many of Avalanche do.
drug history as in smoking a doobie? Drinking alcohol is just as bad. IMO, alcohol is worse than smoking pot, because alcohol changes your brain chemistry making you require it in your system. Unlike real drugs, marijuana is NOT addictive. You can not get addicted to maryjane which meens you can stop whenever you want to as long as you have the commitment. I meen honestly, just about everyone has tried it in their lifetime, and i think it is good to try different things once in a while but knowing your limits.

[blnk162]

Originally posted by shartley

So then what is considered worse or less moral cheating for pleasure(rec ball) or cheating for money and and keeping business running...what if cheating came down to putting food on the table of Ed Poormans kids if he had any is it alright then?

[magman007]

OK, the name is SALM not salem, salem is a ciggarete company, and a place in massachussets, as well as then name of the funny cat on sabrina the teenage witch


AS well, add me to the sainthood. I am a novice player in the southamerican millenium series, and have never cheated, nor will i ever cheet.


thank you

[FeelTheRT]

Salem is also the captical of OR.

[painball]

most pro players money isn't made from tourneys. They do have jobs, too. Cheating in tourneys is the most immoral thing in paintball. Some teams actually play by the rules and win a lot, but playing against cheaters makes it mighty hard!

[blnk162]

Originally posted by painball
most pro players money isn't made from tourneys. They do have jobs, too. Cheating in tourneys is the most immoral thing in paintball. Some teams actually play by the rules and win a lot, but playing against cheaters makes it mighty hard!

Actually...Most Pro players are Industry heads and promoters..ie: Avalanche doing bad at world cup means lack of sales means less profit means no money for eds kids dinner...

see what im saying?

[shartley]

Originally posted by FeelTheRT
Originally posted by magman007
Why on earth would you pick up a recognized cheter to coach your team? so he can teach them how to cheet? you dont need to wipe to win, and we all know avalanche is notorious for wiping now dont we?
In a way, yes. Not necessarily teaching how to "cheat", but little tricks that are sort of on the border line, such as effectivly shooting blind. It really depends how you define a cheater. If you speak morally, don't we all cheat? Shooting back when bunkered, having a reff check a player repeatedly to move up, shooting blind over a bunker, etc. There are ways to get around rules without acutually having to "cheat". And when your in a huge competition, people aren't as friendly anymore espeically if they have gone far.

Originally posted by FeelTheRT
Originally posted by magman007

Salm, was not, nor will he ever be better than i am. I cannot see how he could be. Unless, every shot i put on him, he happens to wipe.
isn't that a little literal? He has skill, other wise he wouldn't be in the proffesional division. You can't cheat your way through a try out.

Also, he does have a drug history, as many of Avalanche do.
drug history as in smoking a doobie? Drinking alcohol is just as bad. IMO, alcohol is worse than smoking pot, because alcohol changes your brain chemistry making you require it in your system. Unlike real drugs, marijuana is NOT addictive. You can not get addicted to maryjane which meens you can stop whenever you want to as long as you have the commitment. I meen honestly, just about everyone has tried it in their lifetime, and i think it is good to try different things once in a while but knowing your limits.

[cphilip]

Well alls I know as I would rather have fun and feel good about myself in losing before playing with cheaters just to win anyday...And if I feel good about myself AND win then thats ane even sweeter success!

[lonsch]

How is cheating in a tourney worse than cheating in a rec game? I would say wiping on a new player out with his dad to have a good time is worse than wiping in a tourney game where everyone has a ferm grasp on the game.

[shartley]

Originally posted by lonsch
How is cheating in a tourney worse than cheating in a rec game? I would say wiping on a new player out with his dad to have a good time is worse than wiping in a tourney game where everyone has a ferm grasp on the game.

[painball]

Originally posted by lonsch
How is cheating in a tourney worse than cheating in a rec game? I would say wiping on a new player out with his dad to have a good time is worse than wiping in a tourney game where everyone has a ferm grasp on the game.

Tourneys are expensive. Cheating could mean you take away the win from a non-cheating team like you. Cheating is the lazy way to win. If you can't win fairly then why try anyways. Just my .02. I don't want any more flaming goin on.