Salm Speaks Out

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  • tranman
    UW Kinesiology
    • May 2001
    • 473

    #46

    Paintball is a game, paintball is a sport. In other pro sports, how many flagrant fouls do you see? not many. Why is that? because they hire the best, the ones that wont cost them valuable points, yardage, players etc.

    You don't see so many outbursts in pro sports because the fines are too heavy (which is the point) to be running your mouth off all the time. Taunting in football will get you penalties and fines from the league. Getting fined $10 000 plus just for mouthing off and getting suspensions is enough to keep most pro players in line.

    Now watch a pro paintball game, you hear swearing all the time, mouthing off to refs in games, when it states in most paintball tournament rule books swearing is strictly not allowed. Maybe the NPPL and PSP, etc. should take more responsibility by fining/punishing players with suspensions,etc. to keep this sport more respectable. Maybe that will let this sport get into the main stream and attract more players?

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    • blnk162

      #47
      Originally posted by painball


      Tourneys are expensive. Cheating could mean you take away the win from a non-cheating team like you. Cheating is the lazy way to win. If you can't win fairly then why try anyways. Just my .02. I don't want any more flaming goin on.
      Your assuming he cheats.

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      • PsychoBaller
        Gone are my SFL days...
        • Nov 2000
        • 1952

        #48
        Uhh......

        pathetic.....just pathetic..... Salm should still be shot... and 2 thumbs down to the people that went and did an interview with him..... just giving him more attention...

        bah....
        ~da "not enthused" baller

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        • painball
          Scumbag
          • Dec 2002
          • 921

          #49
          Originally posted by blnk162


          Your assuming he cheats.
          Uhhhh...isn't it obvious?

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          • Fred
            AO Zealot
            • Feb 2002
            • 2624

            #50
            Salem is also the name of the High School I graduated from in 99...


            as for the whole Salm bit... I personally think that anyone who plays with him, gets coached by him, looks up to him, etc, is guilty by association as a person with poor integrity, and I wouldn't doubt it if they're a cheater.


            It's a great example of why a single organization is needed to keep tabs on all tournaments, at all levels. Keep the players straight, keep the game fun, and keep the doubt of whether or not the 1st place team earned their wins.

            Yet another personal reminder of why I don't ever see myself playing serious tournaments.

            ---Fred
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            • Rooster
              Registered User
              • Oct 2000
              • 1069

              #51
              Anyway you slice it they are still better than YOU
              I have no doubt that they are better at cheating than I am.

              And as far as teams picking him up, it just goes to show what a joke tourny paintball has become.

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              • lonsch
                Registered User
                • Jan 2001
                • 347

                #52



                that's because you read it wrong. you misunderstood the point of that post entirely

                the meaning of that post is that i feel it would be worse to wipe a hit that a newbie gave you because he would take it worse than a tourney player who deals with cheating all the time

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                • blnk162

                  #53
                  Originally posted by painball


                  Uhhhh...isn't it obvious?
                  No, Obvious would be him saying I CHEAT or you catching him cheating, not being Mrs. Cleo and assuming.

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                  • cphilip
                    Former Moderator

                    • Jun 2026
                    • 16216

                    #54
                    Blnk...(sigh) I begining to figure you got Toe Jam for brains son....



                    AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                    cphilip.com

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                    • mag-hatter
                      OOOOOOOOO-RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 1069

                      #55
                      some person at my local field shot from out of bounds and was hitting people from the other team and the people that got hit thought that they were hit fairly from someone on the field and the team that out of bounds shooter was on won. some guy from the opposite team gave him a REALL *** chewing for it.
                      MY PRETTY PRETTY FREEFLOW ON EBAY! GET SOME WHILE ITS HOT AND FALLING OUT OF THE COW!

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                      • blnk162

                        #56
                        Originally posted by cphilip
                        Blnk...(sigh) I begining to figure you got Toe Jam for brains son....

                        Well come on man, hes making a huge insulting assumption...

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                        • benzy2
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 546

                          #57
                          why would learning skill and ways of moving on the field from him be wrong. I mean i personally suck at speedball and would love for anyone that is very good to help me out. I wouldnt want to learn any illegal skills but how to snap shoot quicker and how to stay in my bunker better and how to move from bunker to bunker at the right time and stuff like that would really help. I would have no problems with his help. I would piss him off and rag on him for cheat so i kinda doubt he would help me but if you think that is wrong then i am lost. If a running back gets in a fight and is susspendid from playing is it wrong to take tips on how to lift and what drills to do. I wouldnt talk to him about the moral part of the game just the skill part. I personally have only played 2 speedball games and a ton of rec with my friends. I dont find it right to cheat with them as it is all fun and cheating just eliminates the fun.
                          Why doesnt anything work for me.

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                          • magman007
                            I <3 my Penis
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 7579

                            #58
                            Here we go again.


                            First off, Speaking of the out of bounds thing, i read an article about todd addamson, where he was mr big stuff etc. Now, in that article, he said at practice, they like to go into the fields and shoot over into the other fields, and watch the newbs get confused. a little bit of of a link here? I have since searched for this article, but it appears that it had been taken down a while back, the old a discussion may still be here some where tho!


                            Feelthert, i know you play tourny ball ,and are same rank as i. LEt me say this, i know all the cheep tricks, but i will tell you, i honestly never use them, why? because everyone diserves a fair chance. Now i ask you, do you use these little gateways to winning? if you do, you have lost all of my respect.

                            Cheeting is lame, why do you want to justify it? also salm, and most of not all of avalanche is a group of cheaters, as well are other teams, but look at the most of the others. Aftershock has really cleaned up its image, and i suggest the others do the same.

                            I also agree, that the nppl, and the psp need to start cracking down, and stop beingf such wienies. maybe chuck can do that now, that the psp is out of his hair. Maybe he can enforce some friggin rules, without the psp's pressure to not call their team for cheating. Remember the psp had been run by industry leaders.

                            Also i ask you this, why doesnt europe, as well as south america have these problems? i am baffled by this.

                            MArajuanna also changes your brain chemistry bub. It slows you down, and that is a fact. you know that nice clear liquid in your brain? the one that helps transfer your synaptic impulses? well.... marajuanna changes that nice clear liquid to a dull grey sludge. as you can guess, your impulses do not get relayed as well and you baisically f your self up. Ever hear the saying "he smoked him sell retarted"? well that has some truth to it, and it is for the reason above i had stated.


                            Thank you again, now please, can we all agree that cheating, and playing in the grey area is not cool, and not respected? Alot like Jeremy Salm?



                            Originally posted by Tom in reffrence to a post saying he acted like my dad...
                            "That's right!
                            WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!"
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                            • 1stdeadeye
                              Still around????
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 8501

                              #59
                              What Blnk?

                              Blnk,

                              I bet you believed Marion Barry when he was carted out of that Hotel in D.C. screaming, " The Do not avoid the filter. Its the same thing as cursing - cphilip

                              Salm admitted that he cheated during that game. He claims to have lost his head under the pressure. Come on man, someone who snaps goes postal. They don't go ninja with a borrowed gun and hide in the woods an hour before the game to do some sniping. Once a cheater, always a cheater!

                              Also, Snowslide will be playing at NPPL events, so Salm should have been banned entirely, not just from playing, but a Pete Rose style ban!
                              Last edited by cphilip; 01-07-2003, 08:29 AM.

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                              • lonsch
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 347

                                #60
                                he wasn't talking about salm he was talking about me
                                Last edited by cphilip; 01-07-2003, 08:27 AM.

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