ANGEL v.s. impulse ?

[Mr. T!]

Ultimator-

How can the soleniod pressure be different than the bolt pressure? The only way oyou can get an Imps soleniod to run at a diff pressure than the gun, you have to have an LPR (opps.....smart parts forgot one...)
if an impies solenoid runs at 160 psi (which is far from stock pressures), then the bolt will have the same pressure, unless of course you found a way to pack another reg somewhere in the soleniod.

Your right, it is not fair to compare a stock imp to an angel. Compare a nice imp (strange) to an ir3, and you have competition. However, Imps, out of the box need soo many upgrades to shoot anywhere near an angel. I can understand that though, because they are a 400 dollar gun.

[cris8762]

Mr T, you've obvisouly never seen a Impulse lately....almost ALL the hihend imps nowhave LPRs on them

i know mine does

the impulse can EASILY be better than a stock impulse

i'll dscribe later i have to go to class now!

[tobz]

well

my only problem with this forum is a couple of minor things, first off, as far as people challenging other people...


yes, his gun probably shot through 17 pods with air left in the tank, if you setup almost any gun with "high efficiency" in mind, you can make your tank go a long way, I know my cocker can.

The other problem is that someone knocked a stock cocker earlier... I don't like that. He should save his money on his cocker upgrades, just get a stock cocker, and e-blade or race it. I hope he knows that a stock cocker can be raced no prob and doesn't need any of those "foolish upgrades". I rip on my wgp hinge, (100% stock 2k3 cocker) and I get 10-12bps. There is no need to upgrade a cocker other than minor performance and cosmetic reasons.

Other than that, these opinions are very nice. I have shotten a pre-release special edition impulse back in 2000, nice guns, but... sloppy triggers, very tall, internals broke too much, bolt pin broke too much, but I did take 2nd place in a tourney.

I also shot a nice angel back in 2000, seemed very solidly built, liked the feel of the trigger, was a lot less sloppy. However, for the impulse being roughly 1/3 of the price, I could not afford the angel at the time.

Another thing, is that I love mechanical markers. It's amazing what you can do with a mechanical marker nowadays and get it to compete with those high end electros. Rock on everyone.

tobz

p.s. stock cockers own

[Ultimator]

Originally posted by Mr. T!
How can the soleniod pressure be different than the bolt pressure? The only way oyou can get an Imps soleniod to run at a diff pressure than the gun, you have to have an LPR (opps.....smart parts forgot one...)
if an impies solenoid runs at 160 psi (which is far from stock pressures), then the bolt will have the same pressure, unless of course you found a way to pack another reg somewhere in the soleniod.

I mentioned in the post that the upgrades I was talking about were on my gun.

[TAG]

Whew !
Glad I moved this out of the Angel Forum now....LOL

Just a thought......what if EVERY paintball gun only cost 100$ ? What would most people buy ? Maybe the guns mentioned here? I will even include the bushy (I like them BTW)

[cphilip]

Originally posted by TheAngelGuy.com
Whew !
Glad I moved this out of the Angel Forum now....LOL

I bet you are!!!!!


hey tobz, you said this: my only problem with this forum is a couple of minor things, first off, as far as people challenging other people... Now what disturbs me about this comment is you never actually point to a reason why that is a problem for you in THIS forum and not every other forum in the whole world wide web! I mean have you realy found a Forum where that did NOT happen? And I suspect you have found many forums where it was far worse. But I am certain you have some logic for dissing this forum over the others?

[tobz]

whoops

didn't mean "forum" please insert "thread" for forum, thanks for noticing

The only problem I had was people challenging other people with no basis or knowledge. They just need to make sure they have the facts before they say, "ANGEL's don't this... or IMPY's don't that..." That's all.

T.J.

[cphilip]

OK cool! It's all good! I was just kinda ribbin ya on that one. I understand now.

[tommyd46290]

A stock bushy is supurior in my mind to a stock imp for the fact the it has an lpr. beyond that the impulse is over the bushmaster.

[Verbal138]

Re:

An impulse is a econo electro, period. Sure you can get a tuned/aftermarket one, but you can take a kid out of the white trash but you can't take the white trash out of the kid. Bottom line, it's still an econo marker, just a slightly better one. You want to talk aftermarket markers? There are a half a dozen tuners out there who make aftermarket angels and all of them are far superior to ANY tuned impulse.

Ultimator, the 'kick' you complain about allows for you to hit the sweet spot and far exceed a rate of fire that can be achieved with just your fingers, but since you own an impulse, you wouldn't know anything about a non ****e trigger.

[tommyd46290]

it's really a matter of preference here but i have personally seen MANY impulses shoot better than highly tuned angels. I personally love angels and will stick with them but impulse's do have thir advantage in places.

And you stepped WAY out of line by saying something like that to ultimator because anyone that even owns one pretty much HAS to know what they are doing.

[Verbal138]

Re:

Out of line? How? He tried to claim the kick was a bad thing, when in fact that is what allows the angel to smoke guns like the impulse. Impulses might have a bit more range but the added range only is going to matter to a rec baller, and if all you want is range you should be getting a cocker or even a shocker - not the econo SP electro.

Angels have a better rate of fire, they are more reliable, they run off of lower pressure and are just an all around more solid gun. Anyone who's ever picked up an impulse and then an angel can tell you that the angel just feels more 'solid'. I'm not saying impulses are crap, because they're not, I was thinking about picking one up for a back-up gun. What I am saying is that a impulse is a econo-mid range electro and there is no way they can compete with an angel, intimidator or shocker for that matter.

[speedyejl]

Ughhh does anybody relize that an Angel and Impulse are almost functionaly identical? The solinoid on an Angel is ontop of the hammer assembly vs the Impulse where it is under thus the solinoid tray. The Angel has a smaller hammer also, which means jack. Also for the $~400 price difference between the two you can make a stock Imp well on pair with a 2k2.

O yea an Impulse is also identical to a Bushmaster.

[Verbal138]

Re:

If they were functionally identical they would perform almost identical, which we know is not the case. The structural framework might be similiar but since they're electros a lot of it is in the programming, which obviously is not identical in any sense.

As far as a tuned impulse, even the most tuned impulse still has a sloppier feel and isn't anywhere near as fast. This is like comparing a Ferrari to a Porsche Boxter, the fair comparison would be the 911 turbo, just like the shocker would be the gun to compare against the angel, intimidator and EMag.

[tommyd46290]

It;s still just a battle of wits and people's opinion no one is right here no one is wrong. The impulse is NOT the same as a bushmaster. well it is except for the lpr.