The new ANGEL SPEED (first hand)

[JAM]

Originally posted by Cliffio
jam, i know what your saying because i usually say it too, but unfortunatly that kinda of rational will only get brushed aside. because everyones gun is better for some reason, and people have to let it be known, but, thats how it goes i guess.

oh, OK, well if that's the case, than my XMag owns all other guns!

[JAM]

Originally posted by Dubstar112


True true...

It is however really nice to see a new version of an Angel that has a price so that the people who really could use it to thier advantage, can have it.

Amen, props to WDP for being able to bring this technology down a little in price point. It really helps us all, more things become affordable, more people will play, more money in the sport- more innovation, more products. Good and bad products of course, but in general, it's good. for what it's worth, I like angels plenty, if I could afford more than one highend gun, I'd probably have one.

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by JAM
For what it's worth, i don't get it... why do people feel the need to crap on other guns? angels, timmies, cockers, impulses, etc etc. all good. an XMag is better in some ways than all of them, and they are better than an XMag in others, who cares? does it shoot? does it allow you to shoot as fast as you can move your fingers? do you like it? than more power to you and quit the whining. damn. Too early for all this.

Amen brudah!

However, I don't think that's the case in this thread.

Way back in the begining of this thread, Havoc gave Angel crap, not on their GUN, but on their CLAIMS.

At AO, it seems as though there's great skepticism when unproven, boastfull, hard-to-believe claims are made as any part of a product's reputation or marketing hype (see WAS).

All we ask, when something does not seem logical or possible, is to PROVE IT. That's all. Until then, we'll have our doubts and challenge UNPROVEN myths and marketing hype.

[Miscue]

AO: Paintball nihilism at its best.

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke


Amen brudah!

However, I don't think that's the case in this thread.

Way back in the begining of this thread, Havoc gave Angel crap, not on their GUN, but on their CLAIMS.

At AO, it seems as though there's great skepticism when unproven, boastfull, hard-to-believe claims are made as any part of a product's reputation or marketing hype (see WAS).

All we ask, when something does not seem logical or possible, is to PROVE IT. That's all. Until then, we'll have our doubts and challenge UNPROVEN myths and marketing hype.

Actually,
in the third post.Havoc started flaming WDP.The only posts to that point was 1 person who shot it and gave thier impression(how can you argue with that)and another that thought simplifying the functions was a good idea.

P.S.
My gun is better than yours,and no I won't tell you which one it is.

Jay.

[Mango]

Ohh I want one! I would buy an X-mag with my first paycheck but I think I'll get this since it will probably be more easily availible.

[Miscue]

Damn dude. Don't you learn?!

[Brian68mag]

I am looking into a angel speed as a replacement for my emag. My emags reliability with lvl 10 has just made me lose faith in my emag. I am not willing to spend the time to replace orings and carriers every day i want to play just to have a marker who's first shot in a string takes 2 pulls no matter what(The carrier leaks a bit, one size bigger and it wont fire at all), or have the effects of level 10 canceled out by using a smaller spring/carrier so it fires each time but chops bad and is still fairly unreliable. Maybe i just got a bad kit or bad luck, i installed a kit on my freinds RT and it works perfectly. I love my 68 automag though.

I want to keep my emag, but no purpose in having a gun that doesnt work properly.
Angels are great guns, and WDP is a great company with great products. Who cares if they beef up there marketing a little bit, flashy things with big claims sell, and isnt that the purpose of running a business, to make money? It just so happens they make a product that most people love and consider the #1 tourney marker. Ive shot Lcd's and Ir3's and love them, are they fast? hell yes, just as fast as my emag, and a lot lighter. I love mags, and angels and i hate people that diss on eathier one with empty claims.
Use which ones suits you, be it emag, timmy, impulse, cocker, angel or spyder and give up this "Your marker sucks" crap, honestly whats the purpose of it?

Anyway, back on topic, the speed looks like a great marker. If its anything like the Ir3 it will be a good seller because of the price(900 i heard?). Looks like WDP may have another winner here.

[GT]

Originally posted by Havoc_online
I just dont like the people who run the company. and YES they try and control the market, but it would be bad form to say how(even at the risk of looking wrong, but if/when we meet someday Cliff, remind me and I'll tell you:))

for 1k not only are you getting a great marker but a company that is willing to put some big dollars in the sport to produce positive change. Read Ged Greens article on warpig. Lets talk about the guns here. I really dont care WTF a company does as long as I get good custmer service. DO we grill Tom on what he does when he leaves work? You guys are worse than the old women at church!

One of the many reasons I buy WDP is because whenever I see a comparo of one electro to another it awlays starts out as how good or bad it is compared to an Angel. I am sorry but WDP made a standard by which all others are judged. They built a standard. That is something that isnt easly achieved. On a similar note compare an IR3 that you can get around 1k and an Xmag that will run you close to 1400. Opps maybe I shouldnt go there, start another thread maybe.

SIDE Note: I dont understand all of the shopping problems that the paintball world is infatuated with. I dont know how many non-LVL X mags I have owned. They very very rarely break paint. Honestly I think COPS, ACE, LVLX are useless and unneeded on a gun that has a good loader and a nice set of batteries.

BTW: My old eclipse angel Pinched 3 balls in a row durring one game, my 12v batts were really low. Sorry guys the angel is a great marker not matter which one you buy.

Jason

[freek133]

Alright! Thats it!

I have read this whole thing and not once was the Matrix mentioned in this thread! C'mon, show some compassion!

EDIT: Granted it was in a quote... but thats not good enough!

[logamus]

i have read this whole thread and i now have tired head and hate all guns.

[arowmic]

Same here man. Pretty much all markers fall into the "BLEH" category.

[GT]

no reply yet?

jb

[freek133]

Sorry Gtrsi, though it was good read... I dont think anyone is paying much attention to this thread anymore.