For Those Who Couldn't Wait.....(x-mag)

[No sKiLLz]

I have started this thread for those of us who are (or even were) loyal AGD patrons who have gotten tired of waiting, and WOULD have bought the X-mag, but instead were forced to go elsewhere.

I have read all the threads and responses (including Toms) about the who, what, why, and when the X-mags orders would start getting filled. There are many valid points in those threads, but after being a loyal AGD customer since 1995, I was truthfully hurt by Toms comment telling us to go elsewhere.

If you were on the waiting list, or had considered buying the X-mag but PURCHASED SOMETHING ELSE in the same price range, please post a reply. I would like this to be a gauge to AGD of the actual effect of bottlenecking production of the X-mag.

First one: No sKiLLz now has the NY Xtreme Matrix...

P.S. After spending $1,300 on a marker, it might be a while before I purchase another AGD product.

[freek133]

I got tired of waiting really early, and picked up a Matrix myself... I dont see myself going back to agd any time soon, though I still have my minimag as a backup, that thing just refuses to stop shooting.

[personman]

I think this post is pretty rude and immature.. I think if Tom could actually speed up the production rate he would.

[darklord]

I had an e-mag, now I have a LED matrix.

I can't say I really disliked the e-mag... a deal came around and I took it. I am very satisfied with the matrix. I can say I wanted an x-mag at one point, but signing up to be on a waiting list was not really ideal for me.

Anyway I can't say I have a real problem with AGD, I've been satisfied with their products, but I am almost more satisfied with my matrix than I ever was with my e-mag. So what is this thread trying to prove? The actual # of people who were going to buy x-mags but bought something else? People switch guns/companies ALL the time.

[thecavemankevin]

when and where did tom say that?

Must have missed that thread

[cdawg]

Originally posted by personman
I think this post is pretty rude and immature.. I think if Tom could actually speed up the production rate he would.

I disagree. This post will give Tom an indication of how much potential money he has lost. I'm sick of this "quality control" issue. I don't see Angels having "quality control" issues, and they are in the same price bracket. Someone has to say it... Mr. Kaye, if you don't expand your production you will lose money.

I would have bought an Xmag.

[Crazy]

I now shoot a timmy and will never go back =\

[Rancid Milk]

Originally posted by thecavemankevin
when and where did tom say that?

Must have missed that thread

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81107

originally posted by AGD
People, please don't complain, if you don't want to wait just buy another gun. The Xmags are always going to have a wait now and forever.

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by personman
I think this post is pretty rude and immature.. I think if Tom could actually speed up the production rate he would.

Not rude at all. Tom could speed up production if he'd spend a little money.(ads, in house milling machines, staff)

[akunochi]

I really really wanted an X-mag but ended up buying a 2k2 dark angel. I guess I might still pick up a x-mag after production picks up. I must say that no AGD product has had to be recalled yet. Tom I still look forward to metting you at D-day in Oklahoma as my general.

[MantisMag]

Originally posted by WARPED1
Not rude at all. Tom could speed up production if he'd spend a little money.(ads, in house milling machines, staff)

that's more than a little money.

[56kSomeGuy]

Originally posted by MantisMag


that's more than a little money.

Well you got to spend some money to make money... Also I did get tired of waiting buy still settled for the second best thing at the time which was a micro-e which I still have.

[beefstew]

Originally posted by cdawg


I disagree. This post will give Tom an indication of how much potential money he has lost. I'm sick of this "quality control" issue. I don't see Angels having "quality control" issues, and they are in the same price bracket. Someone has to say it... Mr. Kaye, if you don't expand your production you will lose money.

I would have bought an Xmag.

I have had multiple WDP markers not work out of the box or crap out on me very early on. Any of the emags i have used or bought have not gone down once.
I bought i bushy after my emag because i didnt want to spend that much on a pball gun but if i was going to i would wait.

[fire1811]

gee i had and angel lcd and i went though 5 YES 5 boards in 6 months. your right no quality control issues there

i had an xmag on order and i ended up
with an.......XMAG

quit cryin and wait like everyone else has

[dansim]

Originally posted by cdawg


I disagree. This post will give Tom an indication of how much potential money he has lost. I'm sick of this "quality control" issue. I don't see Angels having "quality control" issues, and they are in the same price bracket. Someone has to say it... Mr. Kaye, if you don't expand your production you will lose money.

I would have bought an Xmag.

you also dont see how many angels are brought in for warranty work out of teh box, i have, and frankly if you were on another fourm "HEAVILY" populated by one group that has been established as long as this one you will see that companys should implement some quality control issues...better yet hers a buggy block of aluminum have fun