For Those Who Couldn't Wait.....(x-mag)

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  • No sKiLLz
    NYX #16
    • Apr 2003
    • 930

    #76
    Wow. You know what, I started this thread and I pray to God I can end it. All of you have had great thoughts about a lot of different reasons, real or hypthesized, pertaining to the delay on X-mag production. I wanted to keep the first thread short but I can see that was a mistake. I should have been clearer about my intentions because somehow this thread got WAAAAYYYY off topic.

    I have owned an automag classic since 1995 when I first started paintball with my friend in HS. Since then I have spent countless amounts of time and money to keep it competitive on the field. I have bought other markers, and shot other markers I liked, but out of all of them I've kept my mag the longest. I just recently sold it to purchase a higher end marker, which I thought would be the X-mag.

    My HS friend had ordered his almost 4 months ago, and I was going to put in my order around the same time. I was getting a little discouraged on buying the X-mag because every time my friend tried to find out anything about when he would get it, there was no definite response. I wasn't sure how long I could wait to get a competitive marker, so I turned elsewhere.

    Now truly, after being loyal to my mag for so long, and reading posts in this forum and being a distant cousin to this AGD family I was hurt to see Tom basically telling us if we didn't like it, that it was too bad, go elsewhere (I know those weren't his exact words, but can anyone else see why it would be construed as such?).

    There is always a way to do things better, and make production more efficient. I don't presume to know how, but I do think it's up to AGD to find out, because markers are their business. My purpose for posting this thread was simple. I wanted to see if anyone else out there who was SERIOUS about buying the X-mag (hence I added the line about people who purchased high end markers recently) took Toms advice and picked up a different gun. I was interested in knowing what was being bought, and just how large a market the X-mag potentially had, not to spite anyone, but to gauge the public response to this whole situation. After reading all the replies, I 've decided it doesn't matter anymore.

    Next time I will try to post something a little more positive and concrete. Sorry guyz.

    And as far as picking up several markers before the X-mag becomes readily available, like I said, these are expensive markers, so if you can buy two or three of them within several moths, God bless you, but with my rent and car payment I am fortunate to buy a new marker every couple of YEARS.
    Miscue - *Banned for: Flaming, disruptive behavior, and overall jackassery* -Brian

    cphilip - ...And again I am not allowing anyone to use the "well everyone else does it and gets away with it" excuse. Get used to it. Life aint always fair and this ain't no democracy.

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    • MantisMag
      Dim Sum
      • Dec 2001
      • 1895

      #77
      haha. what happened to you? i was starting to think you get your jollies from orphaning threads and seeing who adopts them. yeah it got off topic pretty fast. i think within 10 posts it was off. and we never seemed to find our way back. i think a prudent move to avoid a reputation as a troll would be to post about something everyone can agree on. try "AGD RULES!!!" or "E-MAGS ROCK!" nah skip that one. somebody's bound to gripe about the X on there. post about women and how great it is to have them playing paintball. i think everyone can agree with that on some level or other.

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      • No sKiLLz
        NYX #16
        • Apr 2003
        • 930

        #78
        Duly noted. My next thread will be on "What would you do if you were locked in a closet for 20 minutes with Keely Watson".
        Miscue - *Banned for: Flaming, disruptive behavior, and overall jackassery* -Brian

        cphilip - ...And again I am not allowing anyone to use the "well everyone else does it and gets away with it" excuse. Get used to it. Life aint always fair and this ain't no democracy.

        Check out AO mods at their finest

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        • Rooster
          Registered User
          • Oct 2000
          • 1069

          #79
          "$20,000 on 100 guns"

          This is hilarious. There is no way there is that much profit on 100 guns. I wouldn't be surprised if it was alot closer to 2000 on 100 guns. Expensive guns don't pay the bills. They get people interested. Many companies sell printers at a loss to sell ink at a premium. The same is true about an Xmag. The X mag gets people interested in AGD. The RT-Pro, basic Emag, Intelliframes, and Warp Feeds pay the bills.

          If you can't wait for an Xmag; don't. But don't whine about it. You sound like the belly-aching children that have to be drug out of the department store becuase mommy wouldn't buy them a new toy.

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          • Paintchucker

            #80
            While I am waiting...



            This will hold me thru for a little while:

            ULE body
            Xvalve
            Hyperframe
            Freak
            Custom Fade Revvy, since the Hyperframe only goes 10-13

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            • MantisMag
              Dim Sum
              • Dec 2001
              • 1895

              #81
              Originally posted by No sKiLLz
              Duly noted. My next thread will be on "What would you do if you were locked in a closet for 20 minutes with Keely Watson".
              now that's a thread that's going places!

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              • sneakyhacker420
                AO's Uber Green Guru
                • Aug 2002
                • 1247

                #82
                i was gonna buy an x-mag but decided to pick up a nasty impulse instead of waiting 6 or more months


                if only we didnt have to get of the bodies milled and shipped here from damn AGD-Europe... not to mention milling a bit faster so it doesnt take a day-per-body, Tom would have filled ALL the x-mag orders... soon, X-Mags will be rampant, and AGD will have to search for another superior design for the automag... i wonder what that will be
                Proud Member Of The AO Cesspool Since 08-24-2002

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                • manike
                  INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                  • Jan 2001
                  • 3820

                  #83
                  Originally posted by sneakyhacker420
                  not to mention milling a bit faster so it doesnt take a day-per-body, Tom would have filled ALL the x-mag orders...
                  Where did you get this from? It's not true.

                  The X-mag body doesn't take anywhere near a day to mill. It takes one third of the time to mill an X-mag body than it does an SFL intimidator body.

                  For whats being done to the body (3d sculpturing) it takes less time than any of the similar competing products that I know of.
                  Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                  • No sKiLLz
                    NYX #16
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 930

                    #84
                    Hey, if u guyz have pics of these guns, it would be great to look at em. Even though they may not be as pretty as an X-mag (sigh) you could show em off. I have to get pic of my Matrix. I got it last Friday and it hasn't left my side since. It's not the X-mag, but it will definitely do for now. I'll try to get a pic of it up. And Manike, if that is your X-mag, I am so jealous.

                    Sneaky, ur imp is sick. I have never seen one that looked that good.

                    If you can't wait for an Xmag; don't. But don't whine about it. You sound like the belly-aching children that have to be drug out of the department store becuase mommy wouldn't buy them a new toy.
                    As far as Rooster accusing some of being whiners, FYI this is a forum. If no one expressed their opinions or concerns, it wouldn't exists as it does. And because it exists as a place where everyone can openly express their opinion, I will say that your comment was nothing more than a personal attack to people on this forum for using it for its purpose, which kind of makes you the screaming belly-aching kid. Do you think that condescending comment made you seem more mature, or somehow better than the other people on this forum? Quit whining about people who whine. It clearly states on the side of the box of any marker "THIS IS NOT A TOY!"
                    Miscue - *Banned for: Flaming, disruptive behavior, and overall jackassery* -Brian

                    cphilip - ...And again I am not allowing anyone to use the "well everyone else does it and gets away with it" excuse. Get used to it. Life aint always fair and this ain't no democracy.

                    Check out AO mods at their finest

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