ULE Trigger, Can You Shoot It Right?

[AGD]

Trigger Happy AO'ers,

A new issue has become apparent with the lightweight trigger. With lowered reactivity, it is much easier to short stroke the trigger and "chuff" a shot. Virtually everyone that picks the gun up for the first time does this.

The problem is that a chuff pushes a ball into the barrel where it sits there and the next shot blows the hell out of it. Now your barrel is dripping with paint. I am particularly worried about this because most people will think its a trigger problem or bystanders will see the guns suddenly breaking paint.

If we put more reactivity back in we can solve the problem but the gun will be illegal in many tournaments. Because the trigger is so light, turning down the pressure doesnt help.

I have no desire to go back to having a paint blending rep. Our chopping problems were caused by the exact same thing. So I ask you, can you learn to shoot this trigger?

AGD

[painball]

tom if it means I'd be able to have a near electro trigger on a mech gun then by all means yes

[Tunaman]

I need to test one out Tom...I will have to make a decision as to whether its worth it or not. Blenders we dont ever need again. I say scrap the project if this is gonna be an issue...but I need one to test with the boys around here please.

[Manuel_FZR]

I really like a verry light trigger - if this one is mechanical the better it is. But what I like much more is a gun that chops NO paint ... so I would prefer the no-chop-gun - then with a electro trigger.

just my 2 cents

[shartley]

[hitech]

Re: ULE Trigger, Can You Shoot It Right?

Originally posted by AGD
Trigger Happy AO'ers,

A new issue has become apparent with the lightweight trigger...it is much easier to short stroke the trigger and "chuff" a shot... So I ask you, can you learn to shoot this trigger?

I could probably learn to shoot it. However, I WOULD short stroke it from time to time. Does it always load a ball when you short stroke or does the level 10 reset sometimes?

If it were me I would be very worried about a bad rep. with this issue.

[Thordic]

I want high reactivity and the super light trigger Down with the oppresive trigger police!!

[adam shannon]

if its adjustable...make it a kit. if you can handle it with less reactivity then set it up that way...if you dont care if its really reactive since you dont play tournies then you can have it short-stroke free.

i would buy 5 of what i shot at the megameet right now.

[maglover52]

i want one!!!!

[Evil Bob]

Originally posted by Manuel_FZR
I really like a verry light trigger - if this one is mechanical the better it is. But what I like much more is a gun that chops NO paint ... so I would prefer the no-chop-gun - then with a electro trigger.

just my 2 cents

It doesn't "chop", it is simply double feeding, the "chuff" doesn't have sufficient air to shoot the ball out of the barrel, but it has enough to push the bolt and move the ball beyond the chamber into the barrel, allowing a second ball to feed right behind it, the end result is you have one ball colliding with another, if you're lucky, they'll both shoot out (which is very rare), but it will usually obliterate both balls leaving you with a nasty mess to clean up. Lvl 10 will not prevent.

Tom, I'd prefer enough reactivity that the trigger will return, but not so much that you can easily sweet spot it, it should be equal between the force required to pull the trigger and the trigger return.

-Evil Bob

[Hexis]

I Vote for reliability over a slight performance gain.

Is there a way to limit trigger travel so it has to reset to an initial position before it will go backwards again? I thought about that back with my level 7 valve.

[gibby]

The thought of getting electro like performance out of mechanical guns was awesome and it excited a lot of us. One of the selling points about my mag today is the fact that it doesn't chop a ball. Before, I bought the level 10 mod, I had to try and explain to my friends or those who want to fire my gun the behavior of the trigger..what they should do or shouldn't do. For some, that didn't sit well with them.

Ever since the level 10, I just hand them my gun and let it speak for itself. With the Level 10, RT valve, and intelliframe, there were a lot of people who were impressed with how it fired, felt, and just the overall feeling of knowing you wouldn't chop as much as before.

It's great that TK is putting so much time and energy to try to produce quality upgrades for older and newer guns. Not only that, he tries to keep the price range reasonable. However, as mentioned above, if the upgrade is a step back...then I say put it aside.

[Miscue]

Is there any way to engineer an anti-chuffing ULE Trigger?

[Load SM5]

I had no issue emptying a hopper or 2 at the Megameet and I'm usually pretty stinky with mechanical triggers. If I can learn this trigger I'd think anyone could manage it.

[ntn4502]

I did short stroke once or twice when I tested it, but its something I would willing to learn for the lightness. That being said I know there will be many others that will be the opposite
I would keep it the same