Why did the ROF cap die?

[LudavicoSoldier]

Is it just me, or did everyone who once stood up for a ROF cap (NPPL or otherwise) simply shut up? Am I the only one who thinks that getting nailed with a string of balls at 20bps is no fun at all? I mean, its not even safe! You can get seriously injured! And now theres talk of loaders that will eventually feed ~30bps! Personally, I think this is beyond insane. Why not just dip a bat in paint and go bash people?

I know X-Ball and all the new "concept" fields are virtual shooting ranges, where speed is key. However, I DONT WANT TO GET SHOT AT 20 BPS! Don't call me a pussy either! What ever happened to getting shot ONCE and being out. Now we are getting nailed 5+ times before we can even say anything.

Rediculous! Opinions? Flames? n00bs? TWiBs?

[Muzikman]

I agree, but what are ya going to do? Until the insurance companies step in and set a cap, it will never happen. The industry never will since it's a money maker and marketing tactic for them.

[Skoad]

i seriously doubt the rate of fire will get much higher than it is today, even with new loaders that can feed 1000000 bps...human fingers can only do so much.

So unless someone invents some kinda robot hand that looks like a real hand, the rof won't move around much


one thing that would be nice is somehow make the ability to change debounce settings locked while playing.

[LudavicoSoldier]

hehe

It doesnt need to go any higher! It should be lower! 20bps is RETARDED! Who cares how fast you can pull the trigger. People always find ways around that anyhow. Im talking safety here.

[adam shannon]

the human finger cant move that fast...so people (pronounced WAS) are making boards that bend the rules letting all the bling bling little mommas money kids shoot faster because they think thats the way to be beter players because thats all every other spoiled little brat brags about.

as long as bps and the foolish concept of cps is toted as the be all end all of pb, were going to have to endure "my marker can do 50 cps" etc etc etc.

[LudavicoSoldier]

rgr that! Most people I know who play ball cant afford to feed a gun that goes anywere near 20bps! I dont even tear through a case a day, and these kiddies are tearing through 3-5 cases! Thats it! Im going back into the woods where these twitchy fingered n00bs dont dare go with their "bling bling"!

[LudavicoSoldier]

And for the record, I think anything over 15bps should be outlawed. If you cant keep someones head down at that ROF you shouldnt be playing.

[68magOwner]

eh, when you think about it, ROF kind of is capped, i meen, shure some people (including myself) can shoot over 15bps when showing off, but i dont really shoot that fast in a game, im shure some people do, but thats a rarity, its more about people overshooting people than it is the ROF being to high, i meen, i have been hit 5+ times by people shooting less than 15bps more than i have been hit 5+ times by people shooting over 15bps, i think the only way to stop overshooting is to penalize for it, this wolnt solve it in rec ball, but it will help some

[maglover52]

i like it it makes it more of a challenge because u dont want to get nailed a bunch. but o well i dont mind getting shot 5 times in a game doesnt seem to hurt anymore.just stings for a second then no pain.

[Tyger]

Simple jaded formula.

The companies that make the high RF guns also run the league.

The players in this league are alos the same players that played in it from the inception. They're old.

Since they can't run anymore, they say it's ok to shoot a lot of paint. Since thy run the leagues to, they can make whatever rules they want to.

Either that or they think they're more "xtreme" if they shoot lotsa balls... Either way it's stupid.

-Tyger (Who uses an e-mag as a finesse tool, not a blunt object)

[hitech]

Originally posted by Skoad
I seriously doubt the rate of fire will get much higher than it is today...

And back before electronic triggers I'll bet than no one thought it would get over 15 either. Right now bounce is a big problem. Tournaments are checking for it, but it's easy to get away with in rec ball.

Something needs to be done. I don't know that I have the answer...

[LudavicoSoldier]

True, overshooting has been a problem for awhile, but when coupled with say, a WASd Timmy, its downright dangerous. What is it going to take to get insurance companies (who insure the fields) to see that this is hazardous to peoples safety? Personally, I dont want to see a kid with a foot long lesion from getting caught by a high ROF string from 5 feet away, and im sure mothers/doctors/insurance agents dont want to see it either. This seems to be the path that the industry has chosen...

[coolcatpete]

how ever think of this. When do you shoot the fatest? You try to shoot fast when people are moving, so you will only hit them once or twice at 20bps. I learned this from web dog that 10 bps at 300fps the balls are 30 feet away so i think that would be hard to hit someone like that. The answer to that is a higher cap such as 20.You also shoot fast off the break and that is the same deal. Most of the time unless you are a back man you snap shoot. However when you are a backman you try to get the guys who are snap shooting so you boost your rof up and you still will only hit them once or twice because they are only showing them selves for a mili sec. The only time when shooting fast can get someone injured is when you are bunkering some one and let a whole hopper at them and that is just not fun as you have said and the solution to that is...DONT SHOOT 20BPS WHILE BUNKERING SOMEONE.

[i like tictacs]

Originally posted by spleefstylez
And for the record, I think anything over 15bps should be outlawed. If you cant keep someones head down at that ROF you shouldnt be playing.

and if you think getting shot 5 times is too much, then you shouldn't be playing either...

[i like tictacs]

Originally posted by spleefstylez
True, overshooting has been a problem for awhile, but when coupled with say, a WASd Timmy, its downright dangerous. What is it going to take to get insurance companies (who insure the fields) to see that this is hazardous to peoples safety? Personally, I dont want to see a kid with a foot long lesion from getting caught by a high ROF string from 5 feet away, and im sure mothers/doctors/insurance agents dont want to see it either. This seems to be the path that the industry has chosen...

no more then a month ago i was shot 5 times in a row point blank on my rib cage, and i didn't get any lesion. and its all cleared up now. if you cant take the pain dont play the game. nobody is going to die.