Speed Check/ W.A.S.

[WickedAirSportz]

That's 18 bps... those were balls coming out of the barrel, not dry fires.

[hitech]

Originally posted by WickedAirSportz


Only if the time period waiting for the ball to drop (and then fire) is excessively long. The range varies from 100ms to 750ms. ...It's not like you pull the trigger and then several seconds go by and the marker magically fires on its own.

I guess it depends on what you think is dangerous. 3/4 of a second is in my opinion dangerous.

[Jack & Coke]

Here's my take:

I like Cristobal's "Strict semi" definition:

1.) trigger pull; marker begins to cycle; will cycle again following the next trigger pull AFTER the cycle is finished (marker will not remember any trigger pulls made during the cycle).

why?

Because that's how mechanical markers work.

Shouldn't we make electros function by the same rules and limitations as mechanical markers as they relate to "one pull = one shot"?

[shartley]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
Here's my take:

I like Cristobal's "Strict semi" definition:



why?

Because that's how mechanical markers work.

Shouldn't we make electros function by the same rules and limitations as mechanical markers as they relate to "one pull = one shot"?

[WickedAirSportz]

Ah... but the problem is this... with a mechanical marker, if the ball is mostly in the breech, the bolt face being rounded can "pull" the ball into place and it will shoot the ball without breaking. The electro with eyes would require that you released and repulled the trigger (with your logic).

Personally, I think 750ms is a bit much. I like the 200ms figure much better, as I don't see this causing a problem. The Intimidator has always used the 750ms time, so that is what I used with the Equalizer. Remember, if there is no ball or the eyes fail, the Intimidator in normal eye mode will fire after 3/4 of a second.

One thing to keep in mind is that it takes about 76ms for a ball to free fall .68" from the top of the bolt to the base of the breech. The delay period is necessary when hoppers stutter or a ball gets hung up momentarily. A Halo can force a ball in the breech in under 15ms.

[WickedAirSportz]

I didn't have to sell anything to anyone. Markers have been doing these tricks long before I was ever in the paintball industry.

[Koosh]

Originally posted by WickedAirSportz
... if the ball is mostly in the breech, the bolt face being rounded can "pull" the ball into place and it will shoot the ball without breaking. ...

Pardon my Stupidity, but what the hell does that mean?

[shartley]

Originally posted by WickedAirSportz
I didn't have to sell anything to anyone. Markers have been doing these tricks long before I was ever in the paintball industry.

[WickedAirSportz]

No kidding? Then why would anyone buy your boards?

Because we have better technology. It's as simple as that.

[WickedAirSportz]

Pardon my Stupidity, but what the hell does that mean?

I was explaining what an anti-chop system does. When you pull the trigger and the marker fires, if a ball is 1/2 way in the breech, you are going to chop it in half. What if the ball is almost at the bottom of the breech? The bolt face can actually "scoop" the ball into place as the bolt moves forward, allowing the ball to positioned in the middle of the bolt by the time that the ball is chambered and expelled. With an anti-chop setup, the firing sequence is either not initiated, or held off until the ball is all of the way into the breech.

[shartley]

Originally posted by WickedAirSportz


Because we have better technology. It's as simple as that.

[sniper1rfa]

Because we have better technology. It's as simple as that.

if its been around for years, how do you have better technology!?

contradicting yourself at every turn...

[WickedAirSportz]

You just can't comprehend what I say. I explain exactly how the product(s) work, and you disagree. That's funny, considering that *I* created these products and I obviously know how they work. :)

if its been around for years, how do you have better technology!?

Because we do. :) Ask anyone to do a side-by-side comparison and then get back to me.

[Marek]

Well, for those of us on the sidelines, this is a great way to learn how to twist words around.....on both sides...

[RRfireblade]

Back from dinner and still going.Energizer's got nothing on you guys.

Anyway,
My only real complaint with Jim was he kept saying that his Impulse board will make you shoot faster.If nothing else at least he's in a roundabout way admitted that that is not true.I wish he'd go say that back at I.O.G. to all those young kids.If you want to make that claim at least say it like this, "You will possible shoot 1 ball faster if you can pull 22bps+ for at least two consecutive shots.Legal or not at least that may be the truth.

Come on Jim, do the right thing.

Jay.