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  • QUINCYMASSGUY
    Registered User
    • Dec 2002
    • 914

    #16
    diff

    The difference would be sweetspotting would be illegal and it would be important for the people running the event to take a strict stand on any marker where you can shoot more than one shot without actually pulling again but rather keeping your finger in one spot. If they didn't fight that, the whole intent of a more legitimate, skill based tourney would be erased and it would merely be seen as a way for non-electro companies to stay around. But I think it's the skill that's being promoted and sweetspotting is something AGD is against and does not intend their markers to do, they'd probably be happy to ban it in mech-only. It would definitely encourage companies to focus on getting mech markers to work as closely to electros as possible, whole new wave of technology. The PGA, MLB, and other mainstream sports leagues do not allow particular technology due to it opening a risk of unfair playing ground, this is exactly where mech-only could head.
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    • ChucktheMAGician
      Back at it
      • Oct 2002
      • 1855

      #17
      I think Mech only would be great. Surely more people would be interested as not everyone has $1000 electros. I would think that this should help Mech guns hold there value more too.
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      • Tyril
        the easily distracted
        • Apr 2002
        • 253

        #18
        Do I think it's a great idea?

        Absolutely.

        Will I participate?

        No. Tourneys cost too much paint =)


        -mike

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        • RRfireblade

          • Jun 2002
          • 5103

          #19
          Sure,as soon as my Micro gets back from Anno,sign me up.

          I think it's safe to say most people would give it a shot.

          Jay.

          EXCEPT,and most of you won't like this,but I'd predict if Mech only became popular MOST Tourny players would be shooting BLOWBACKS.

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          • theraidenproject
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            • Jun 2001
            • 1240

            #20
            I would love to play a mech only tourney. Just swap my Emag battery for a forgrip, and I'd be ready to roll. However, I don't see it as having much of an attraction for the majority of tourney players, because they usually will have just one or two e-guns, without the ability to switch to manual, and won't want to drop the cash on a decent mech for an untested concept.
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            • 50 cal
              The evil voices win today
              • Nov 2000
              • 960

              #21
              Heck yeah for a mech only tourneys.

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              • m-98
                Lazy
                • Mar 2003
                • 331

                #22
                I like the idea, plus RT's would be the best around.

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                • AutomagRT1483
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 2987

                  #23
                  Me and my RTP are ready for action.

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                  • spantol
                    Turgid Member
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 1024

                    #24
                    I'd be all for it.

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                    • QUINCYMASSGUY
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 914

                      #25
                      marketing

                      The most important part of all this is how it is marketed. You need to market the concept to the audience that would be most interested to play it but also aim to interest those who would be into the game for the skill of it. Part of this may be catering more towards those who have not played in tournies and have had interest but didn't want to have to buy $1200 markers, $400 air systems, $120 hoppers, then in order to compete pay $1000 tourny fees and $1000 in paint just to compete with the other players. I think what the PSP and XBall did to make the game more marketable is great, but it still focuses on the nonstop spraying, wipe if you can or just play on, overshooting, ramped dwell style of play slimeballs like LaSoya have made their trademark. If a more controlled format is utilized, it will discourage these people but if it gets the proper press it could be as big. However, it will be more approved by families and young players, which will drive the popularity and not have as much competition with the regular series. Creating a legitimate, viewer-friendly format could really drive a revolution towards more traditional play.
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                      • Pstan
                        LA-->Lower Alabama
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71

                        #26
                        I'd definately enjoy mech only tourneys. I think it would also be nice to see some sort of collaboration amongst AGD, WGP, Palmers, and Tippmann to help organize it and show some team spirit among some of the finer manufacturers in the sport. Wouldnt that be great as compared to the litigious atmosphere we've all seen lately!!

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                        • RRfireblade

                          • Jun 2002
                          • 5103

                          #27
                          Re: marketing

                          Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
                          Part of this may be catering more towards those who have not played in tournies and have had interest but didn't want to have to buy $1200 markers, $400 air systems, $120 hoppers, then in order to compete pay $1000 tourny fees and $1000 in paint just to compete with the other players. I think what the PSP and XBall did to make the game more marketable is great, but it still focuses on the nonstop spraying, wipe if you can or just play on, overshooting, ramped dwell style of play slimeballs like LaSoya have made their trademark.
                          Uhmm......that's a pretty extreme scenerio you've stated there.Most tournys that your average weekender plays in at thier local field is a LONG way from the typical play found in the Pros.And even then "most' non-pro players still don't have that much cost tied up in thier gear.

                          I don't think where talking about the big dogs just yet.

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                          • Wc Keep

                            #28
                            i think this is a great idea. i have a cocker and a retro mag right now and have another ule mech retro mag on they way. i love the feel of mechanical guns way more than that of electros.

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                            • QUINCYMASSGUY
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 914

                              #29
                              RR

                              RRfireblade, what can I say, I think big. But if you really add it up, the tourney scenes are really expensive and promoting a more cost-friendly format coul help draw in more consumers. I think a huge thing would be to offer prizes, but not extreme ones like Angel AIRs so the entry fees have to be sky-high to cover them. Set respectable prizes and spread them out over the top 10, I think you'd be suprised how that may promote more fair play because people won't be playing games that determine if they win a $500 item or a $25 Redz pack.

                              I think my key point there is that the current tourney scene, not just pro national but also local store-sponsored tourneys, are well-founded and would be very tough to directly compete with. We need to identify the consumers who haven't pursued tourney play yet because they don't like the high ROF/cheating/egotistical players/etc that seem to be common in current tourneys and instead prefer the style of play a mech tourney would result in (hopefully), but also those tourney players who love the game but are tired of the costs, high-spray rate, etc, and would easily migrate towards a format that they would be more catered to.

                              Did I mention I would expect to be the commissioner of it? No? Oh well, again I think big But I would play.
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                              • Jon/xpm
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                                • Jan 2002
                                • 2170

                                #30
                                In every sport people cheat...
                                It is impossible to stop people cheating no matter what
                                So going to mech. will maybe slow them down
                                But then someone will cheat and do something to a mech gun
                                So if you ban eletronic guns and go to mech. guns only
                                You will just put a bump in a road for cheaters...

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