nppl cap rule?

[Miscue]

Re: Re: one more time can you say safety

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
What do you mean "know who I am?"

I understand the mag is capped for a reason. It is because the solenoid will melt if it goes much higher than 20bps.

Squid... hush. This is not true at all.

[coolcatpete]

Originally posted by MrWallen


Umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but can't he only go over 14 bps by sweetspotting, something already not allowed in NPPL? And even so, it'd be a lot easier to limit your RoF on a mech than an electro.

no he got over 20bps sweet spotting and over 14bps fanning/twiching. Nicad mag got over 20bps without fanning, do a search in the workshop.
Pete

[-=Squid=-]

Re: Re: Re: one more time can you say safety

Originally posted by Miscue


Squid... hush. This is not true at all.

That what many have said when experimenting with speeds upwards of 24 bps. And if it wasnt involving the solenoid, why wouldnt they uncap it? there is no other reason not to.

[Miscue]

Re: Re: Re: Re: one more time can you say safety

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
That what many have said when experimenting with speeds upwards of 24 bps. And if it wasnt involving the solenoid, why wouldnt they uncap it? there is no other reason not to.

/me's head hurts.

I have been experimenting with this. My software makes this possible! Aye Caramba. This information originated from either me or Tom.

'They' is me. I am doing the capping or uncapping. Geez!

[-=Squid=-]

ok, before I go insane and say something stupid, im going to end this. I do NOT know everything about the emag solenoid, other than it cannot take to high speeds.

Im not trying to prove you wrong, as im sure you know more about the electronics than me.

But I will say this... the emag is NOT as fast a gun as others. Every person here knows it. Thats all I have to say about the topic, end of discussion. If you dont like what I just said, get over it people.

[Miscue]

I noticed you edited your last thread where you were explaining about how 'they' did the testing and you heard from 'they' about these problems... and something about stupidity, yada yada. I was about to ask who 'they' are... but I guess 'they' don't exist, which is why you pruned that after you thought about it.

I was going to take a break, but I'm going to get back to work on this to make you eat your words. You have absolutely no idea of what we are working on. There is a reason why it is not released yet.

[Jack & Coke]

Hi Squid,

Old EMAGS seemed "slow" (lol) comapred to those other guns you mentioned NOT because of the noid... but because of the software.

Pre-shot buffering software (i.e. before Miscue's wonder-code) = EMAG max ROF ~ 16-18 bps... (yes even if your board says 20)

Proven here: http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...&highlight=ROF

The only way to get am EMAG to cycle faster was to use a Morlock board:

Butterfingers 30cps EMAG: http://paintball.butters.org/

All other "faster" gun you mentioned have shot buffering. That's why they seemed faster to you.

Now AGD is going to include shot buffering... so no more skipped shots.

If all goes well, the EMAG will be even faster due to Miscue's l33t programming skillz!

BTW, I don't think I have ever seen live, or video clip of anyone shooting their gun legally (raking or walking a non-cheater gun) greater than 20 bps. Without illegal trigger bounce (i.e. debounce set to 1 or 2) people with super finger powers seem to sudenly "come back down to earth" when it comes to how fast they can shoot.

If you have a video clip of someone legally walking their trigger and shooting paint at 20+ bps, please post the link. I'm just currious since the latest chatter now is that "20 is slow...".

Can someone verify if this
"NPPL CAP rule" is true?

Links?

Thanks

[ProX9]

i hit 20 bps easy with the 4.0 software and topped at 23 walking the trigger, of course this was without air and i dont remember what i hit with it aired up except that i was outshooting the halo. anyways when 4.0 comes out you wont be able to say emags are slower than other guns any more its just not true. I own a viking and those are fricken fast and i think the mag was faster, but you have to remember that the lx bolt will let you outshoot a hopper and eyes wont so i dunno which is truly faster i just cant wait to see them after the new software comes stock.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Miscue
I noticed you edited your last thread where you were explaining about how 'they' did the testing and you heard from 'they' about these problems... and something about stupidity, yada yada. I was about to ask who 'they' are... but I guess 'they' don't exist, which is why you pruned that after you thought about it.

I was going to take a break, but I'm going to get back to work on this to make you eat your words. You have absolutely no idea of what we are working on. There is a reason why it is not released yet.

Im afraid jack and coke just proved my point. Sorry to burst your bubble. I deleted my last post because I didnt wanna keep stirring up this pot of crap. You know, you dont have to show off how smart you are because thats all your trying to do.

I never EDITED anything, I deleted a post that said one person in particular did testing at 24 cps, and his noid melted. In order to end this squabble I just deleted it. You instead decide to post again, and make me "eat my words." Im trying my hardest to hold back here, as I know your first reaction is to ban people when you get proven wrong, or disagree with a person.

EDIT: I know about shot buffering, and I know thats why they are faster Thats why I said the emag is slow compared to other guns, because up until now (supposedly) they were.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Im afraid jack and coke just proved my point. Sorry to burst your bubble. I deleted my last post because I didnt wanna keep stirring up this pot of crap. You know, you dont have to show off how smart you are because thats all your trying to do.

I never EDITED anything, I deleted a post that said one person in particular did testing at 24 cps, and his noid melted. In order to end this squabble I just deleted it. You instead decide to post again, and make me "eat my words." Im trying my hardest to hold back here, as I know your first reaction is to ban people when you get proven wrong, or disagree with a person.

EDIT: I know about shot buffering, and I know thats why they are faster Thats why I said the emag is slow compared to other guns, because up until now (supposedly) they were.

No he didn't! It disproves your point! You didn't say anything about Emags being fast now, you just said that Emags are slow and everyone knows it! This is the first time you mentioned a disclaimer.

My first reaction is not to ban you. Otherwise you would not be here to even talk. Quit making stuff up.

Deleting a post and replacing it = editing!

Alright... I'm done with you.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Miscue


No he didn't! It disproves your point! You didn't say anything about Emags being fast now, you just said that Emags are slow and everyone knows it! This is the first time you mentioned a disclaimer.

My first reaction is not to ban you. Otherwise you would not be here to even talk. Quit making stuff up.

Deleting a post and replacing it = editing!

Alright... I'm done with you.

You sure taught me a good lessen

Wanna show me how smart you are? Do my chemistry before I freak out.

This is beyond the point of stupidity. Lemme guess, im the stupid one? Im gonna stop trying to actually prove a point, and act like 90% of other people. Emags are slow. Nuff' said.

[cphilip]

Oh for heavens sakes Squidly... now you see why it scared me earlier today when we agreed on something...

Ok Squid. Follow me here for just a second

Back up to earlier. Ready?

Your wrong!

now go on about your business!

[Dayspring]

Too late.

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
ok, before I go insane and say something stupid, im going to end this.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Dayspring
Too late.

Sorry, but I never have, nor ever will, care about what you say.

Factually, I admit im wrong about somethings. But my point is this. The emag is not as fast as most other markers. Thats where I stand, and there is no changing my mind. To me, an emag is about the same speed as an LCD angel.

EDIT: I just reread every post I made here. Other than my pissy first post, which I apologized for, there isnt any information that I threw out here, or said ,that is untrue. They are slower than other electros because of the cap, they care capped at 20 bps. If I recall thats all I said and people got defensive and blew it out of proportion.

[ProX9]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Emags are slow. Nuff' said.

Your seriously going to be in for a suprise when some of the ao day footage of the 4.0 emags gets online.