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  • tzustratagy
    More Kung Fu than you.
    • Jun 2004
    • 13

    #1

    We are getting screwed.

    Listen up guys. I love my as much as the next guy, but we have to realize that the direction AGD is taking with thier markers is disturbing. First the Xmag and Emag go, then the TAC ONE is introduced, then a sydarm...why? I bought a mag because I was tired of playing GI Joe in the woods. Now it seems that we are stuck playing with mechanicals. And the deadly wind frame may be fast, but still mech, so forget great features like adjustability. Whats going on? Is AGD dropping speedball in favor of childish army man games?
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  • WickeDKlowN
    Registered User
    • Jun 2001
    • 3098

    #2
    Sadley...Yes. They decided that they can't compete with the touney scene so they're going more towarde Scenario/Rec players
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    • Empyreal Rogue
      Zetsubou Billy
      • Apr 2004
      • 1103

      #3
      AGD has, for the most part, given up on the Tournament scene for now. TK wants to see what happens with the Smart Parts issue before they go on. I don't know what the update is but I know they were working on a new design being released on late 2005 or early 2006. The new design would be an electric marker much like the X-Mag, but better. Or something. I dunno.

      But AGD is still working on the E-Mag and X-Mag software and that, more or less, controls how fast the marker shoots. Both markers are more than capable of very high ROF but because of the software they're capped.
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      • magman#1
        Registered User
        • Jun 2001
        • 205

        #4
        sorry dude i would suggest not getting a 4 year old design like that if you're looking to be a high level tournament player even if they were still made. there's nothing wrong with more realistic paintball play, and if you want to bash it then go join pbnation. agd isn't a tourney company if you haven't noticed(by the amount of players using mags in tourneys). don't whine to hummer about how you're getting screwed on fuel economy, that's not what they're about.
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        • trevorjk
          <S>WooLooLoo</S>
          • Dec 2002
          • 4324

          #5
          Originally posted by Empyreal Rogue
          AGD has, for the most part, given up on the Tournament scene for now. TK wants to see what happens with the Smart Parts issue before they go on. I don't know what the update is but I know they were working on a new design being released on late 2005 or early 2006. The new design would be an electric marker much like the X-Mag, but better. Or something. I dunno.

          But AGD is still working on the E-Mag and X-Mag software and that, more or less, controls how fast the marker shoots. Both markers are more than capable of very high ROF but because of the software they're capped.

          ive heard of a new lcd marker as early as next fall... but there just rumors... and even if the Hair trigger is a mech frame its still easily walkable and fast as all hell. so whats the point about it being mechanical

          *only quoted you to connect the rumor i heard... all other things meant towards thread starter*
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          • Blazestorm
            I win
            • Feb 2002
            • 3523

            #6
            Where's the Smart-parts office... and how do you go about making plastic explosives...?

            I have an idea... I'm not saying it's legal... but it's good stuff...
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            • SlipknotX556
              Registered User
              • Nov 2001
              • 5054

              #7
              AGD is doing the smart thing, staying away from the tourny scene. With Smart Parts sueing everyone, its really the right thing to do. Hopefully one day this whole thing with smart parts will end, AGD can return with some awesome new electro marker, better looking and better performing then the X mag.

              But just wait for the Hair trigger to come out, then you will be all happy.

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              • minimag03
                WVU paintball #19
                • Dec 2003
                • 2214

                #8
                We are not getting screwed

                TK knows what he is doing. The hAir trigger as far as I know has no max ROF, do it is just as good as and e-mag.

                minimag03
                PS: would anyone complain if we did do something to the SP office

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                Last edited by minimag03; 07-28-2004, 10:53 PM.
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                • Halliday
                  Level 10
                  • Oct 2000
                  • 1655

                  #9
                  Originally posted by minimag03
                  ....minimag03
                  PS: would anyone complain if we did do something to the SP office

                  Hey, I found SP's headquarters:
                  100 Station Street
                  Loyalhanna, PA 15661
                  [P] 800.992.2147
                  [F] 724.539.2298

                  Monday-Friday
                  10am to 6pm
                  My parents live a few hours away. Just don't do anything nuclear


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                  • TheTramp
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 4019

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tzustratagy
                    Is AGD dropping speedball in favor of childish army man games?
                    Yah righ, that's just what they're doing.

                    Between those "childish army man games" and rec players most of the paintball money lies. God forbid that a company didn't jump on the Dye Tourny bandwagon because of course we know that most players are competing in top level tournaments.
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                    • Evil1
                      Registered User
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 979

                      #11
                      Hey everyone, careful what you say about SP, you may be sued!

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                      • Blazestorm
                        I win
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 3523

                        #12
                        I actually work for SP... I swear

                        Actually know, I hope SP gets sued for a copyright infringement and goes backrupt and blows up and died and spontaniously combusts and and and.
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                        • RoadDawg
                          Degeneration X is back
                          • May 2001
                          • 4023

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tzustratagy
                          Listen up guys. I love my as much as the next guy, but we have to realize that the direction AGD is taking with thier markers is disturbing. First the Xmag and Emag go, then the TAC ONE is introduced, then a sydarm...why? I bought a mag because I was tired of playing GI Joe in the woods. Now it seems that we are stuck playing with mechanicals. And the deadly wind frame may be fast, but still mech, so forget great features like adjustability. Whats going on? Is AGD dropping speedball in favor of childish army man games?
                          First- The Sydarm is an old creation. Nothing new. It's just been ultra rare to find.
                          2nd- E's and X's were outdated and have their own issues
                          3rd- Tac One is for scenario players. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
                          4th- The hair trigger seems to have a small pull and is real quick. Why adjust something that is so rediculously small already.
                          5th- Scenario is the "up and coming" part of the game known as paintball. I've been interested in this part of it but haven't gotten around to joining one yet.
                          6th- Speedball, although fun, isn't for everyone. A HUGE part of the market plays rec ball (woodsball) AGD has realized this, and is giving Tippman a run.
                          Sorry, I'm old

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                          • stondroopy
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 874

                            #14
                            Well going more towards scenario/woods seems like a pretty good idea.They're maintaing a strong following while getting more people to use there marker in a fun enviroment.scenarios seem to me to be popping up more and more and i would take a mag over a tippman any day.Let the electro herd thin a lil and agd may come back with something that will blow your doors off.simply let the other guys fight among themselves and when the dust settles bring unvale(sp) your new super marker.hehe i still wouldnt mind having a emag though
                            http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126801

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                            • Wc Keep

                              #15
                              who says mech guns cant compete in tourneys? its all in the indian not the bow and arrow. ill bring it to anyone with my mech mag. heck ill bring it to anyone with a mech classic mag.

                              so to all you saying agd is leavin the tourney scene i say bring it.

                              but yeah that is a smart move to go towards scenario play. gay but smart.

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