We are getting screwed.

[Miscue]

ive heard of a new lcd marker as early as next fall... but there just rumors... and even if the Hair trigger is a mech frame its still easily walkable and fast as all hell. so whats the point about it being mechanical

*only quoted you to connect the rumor i heard... all other things meant towards thread starter*

Urm, what "LCD" marker? Nope, there is nothing like that in the works. That's not a rumor... that's total make-believe non-sense.

[MagAl]

That's just what I came up with off the top of my head. Think of paintball as a pyramid - with newbies at the bottom & pro-tourney players at the top. As you progess up the sport, there are fewer and fewer people involved at each level (fewer tourney spots, limited # of teams, etc), so AGD's decision to market to the bottom half of the pyramid (representing probably 40 - 50% of the total sport) is a great idea. You market to where the money is - and with all of the high-end electro competition fighting for the other 30% of the market, it leave the door wide open for AGD to step in, compete head-to-head with Tippman & make a heck of a lot more money.

The problem I see with that is "the bottom half of the pyramid" is comprised of those who would rather spend $130 for a M98c then $450 for a tac-1 and also have to spring for a nitro tank.

[rpm07]

First of let me say I wish AGD did not stop the Emag. Even though it is 4 years old it still is better then 90% of the electros out todayl. As for the RT pro it is a great tourny gun. People have learn how to shot plain and simple. Team Blackcell uses a mix of RT pros, Emags and Xmags and we have no problem in the tourny scene. The problem 90% of the players today is they dont know how to play. Just learn how to snap shot. But to them it is easy to just get to their bunker and lay down 900 balls in a game and hit nothing. These are the same guys that brag that they used 3 cases of paint in a day.

[SlartyBartFast]

I do agree that there are a lot maybe most of paintball players exclusivley scenario/woodsball but i dont think when its all said and done it will be even close to the speedball scene since thats whats going to be easier to sell to the public for many reasons.

I think the difference in attendance between the Monster Game and IAO might just shoot that argument down.

[SlartyBartFast]

The problem I see with that is "the bottom half of the pyramid" is comprised of those who would rather spend $130 for a M98c then $450 for a tac-1 and also have to spring for a nitro tank.

But a small percentage of a large market can be significantly larger than a large percentage of a small market.

[TeamNausea]

I think the difference in attendance between the Monster Game and IAO might just shoot that argument down.

I said when it is all said and done i dont see espn EVER having an exclusive 48 hours scenario game show or anything but i can see them showing a few matches in a 30minute segment. Stuff like that will get people acustomed(sp) to the speedball scene.

[SlartyBartFast]

I said when it is all said and done i dont see espn EVER having an exclusive 48 hours scenario game show or anything but i can see them showing a few matches in a 30minute segment. Stuff like that will get people acustomed(sp) to the speedball scene.

Well, when sales are influenced by TV appearances, it'll be time to concentrate on tournaments again.

But, when's that going to happen?

[TeamNausea]

As soon as i become dictator of the world.
I dunno but i do know SOMEDAY it will happen wich is why in my first post i said that when it was all said and done.

[magmonkey]

" We are getting screwed. "

and smartparts is doing the pushing

if you want to blame some one blame SP

Tom can't take the risk of losing everything in a BS lawsuit over an electro
don't get me wrong I LOVE MY EMAG, it is my favorite marker ever, and just because they are not making anymore dosn't mean that I am going to run out an buy the new gun of the month..... instead I am going to stay right where i am.... blasting people in their big stupid heads with my emag


the best we can hope for if for wdp to win in court and do the right thing..... not try to screw everbody over

[Macpaintballer]

1) I don't think Tom would ever make a move that he didn't feel was a smart one.. he didn't just wake up one day and say "Oooo, let's just stop making E-mags and make scenario markers!"

2) Look at how many people own Tippmans. Now, look at all the crazy scenario people (who outnumber speedball players by a long shot... not everyone in the world has a speedball field close to them.. many people play 'outlaw') and how much money they spend on their tippmans. Many have HPA systems, RT, Flatlines, Drops, Gizmos, Stocks, etc. etc. They put ALOT of money into those things... now, for the same price, you get a pre-assembled reliable monster that's smaller, lighter, faster, more consistant, and with the tac one body, many different options for sights, scopes, flashlights, and whatnot. Would you rather take the Tippy or the Mag?

I think AGD took a very negative thing from SP and turned it into a positive business move.

[tzustratagy]

all i can say in response to this statement is this

Tom Kaye > tzustratagy

he's smarter than you ...smarter than about 99% of the people on this forum put together...

so with that said...im pretty sure he knows how to run his own company. and if your complaining about mechanical go buy a hype gun and move to pbnation...

This dude has to be the biggest fanboy I have ever seen. We make fun of Autococker cults, but you are just like a cultmember.

[Miscue]

This dude has to be the biggest fanboy I have ever seen. We make fun of Autococker cults, but you are just like a cultmember.

Note: This is the sort of post that instigates flaming. Watch it.

Also, I pretty much agree with what he said - it's the truth.

[Blazestorm]

Best part is, I don't think Tom went to college

[warbeak2099]

the best we can hope for if for wdp to win in court and do the right thing..... not try to screw everbody over

Yea, what's going on with the WDP vs SP lawsuit. I'm rooting for WDP all the way, but what have they done to this point? I remember reading about their outrageous demands that SP find and destroy every impulse and shocker down to the last trigger frame or something lol. But have any dates been announced or has the damn situation even been confirmed? This lawsuit should spice things up a bit (if it's true).

[lawman1380]

The emag is a great marker, but it's design is at a point where it really can't get much better. The cost of the making the xmag would have eventually caught up and hurt the company. We have already got a preview of what's coming out soon and you know they they have something up their sleeve.