Looks like Glen Palmer might throw his hat in ...

[lord1234]

/me orders a stroker from glenn.

[WARPED1]

If he can...wouldn't he have had already? Shoot i know if i could prove it and somebody else has a patent on MY works and ideas...i would be working night and day to nullify that patent and have royalty fees...ESPECIALLY if im a small company...as royalties would insure the livelyhood of the company..i mean from what i know its been a LONG time running betweeing Budd Orr and Palmer...So apparantly palmer hasnt proved it yet...and he's had alot of years to do so...and again i say unless his name is on the patent it doesnt matter what palmer says...because K2 like SP they're pulling a smart business move wether you like it or not...becuase K2 inherited WGP's intellectual rights they technically ARE the owners of the Autococking technology...and can do what ever they want because of this ..and again i say ...Palmer's letter ..is just that.. a letter...

No, he made more money by selling 3ways and LPR's because WGP couldn't build a good one.............

[eNder159]

You are missing one VERY big thing...Bud Orr DOES NOT have a patent on the "Autococking" system. What Bud Orr has is a copyright/trademark on the name "Autococker". There is NO patent out there for the operation of an autococker (or the semi-auto Palmer guns).

HAHAAHAHAHA

thank you! although you came in to late =oT in my first post i quote

if im wrong please correct me if i am...i am a bit tired from work...Budd Orr's name is on the Autococking patent....

i wouldve stopped the madness.../sigh ..im gonna go delete those posts because you just shutted me up LoL

i stand corrected...

[ramennoodles]

makes me glad i sold my autococker this morning, man, i'm rooting for glenn.

[_tMAN]

Glenn Kicks ***

[Lohman446]

Neither of them have a patent to enforce. "No more than one year after coming to market" was about 13 years ago.

Glenn's claim could muddy the waters enough to make winning in court against AM look highly questionable to K2. Glenn's threat of a "cease and desist" would ruin WGP or set up a court battle that neither want. Hopefully, they'll back off.

This sort of thing, unfortunately, is what happens when real money is brought into a previously small time industry. A handshake and one's word no longer cut it.

What he has is trade dress... or whatever WGP tried to bludgeon AM with. They opened the can up... but to me anything that has a moving backblock, stacked tube design closed bolt confuses me and I cant tell teh difference, I just assume there all made by palmers and must be as good Same with single tube things confusing me and taking advantage of AGDs rep... I hope K2 is forced to play nice or bend over

[Empyreal Rogue]

there's one for ya right off the bat.

Sorry but "cease" "and" "desists" are are spelled correctly. All my spell check applications, including my dictionary, all approve of "desists". If you're referring to the 's' at the end of desist Glenn would be talking about the cease and desist orders given by K2/WGP. As in multiple cease and desist orders.

Since that's "right off the bat" show me the others you found.

[teufelhunden]

No, read the sentence. Correct word would be desist, not desists.

If you want more, look around.

[Smoke]

No, read the sentence. Correct word would be desist, not desists.

If you want more, look around.

It's 1 freakin' typo, my God.....

And yes, there is only one typo. His spelling and grammar are correct, save for the extra "S" on desist.

[warbeak2099]

Glen probably won't put WGP out of business or make them pay him royalties, but he could very well end this foolishness. That would take care of one major problem in the industry.

Now if Mike Cassidy could just prove that he made the first electro! Or we could hope that WDP kicks SP's *** in their lawsuit. That would certainly put an end to the bs... unless WDP gets greedy. But let's just hope that doesn't happen.

[minimag03]

Go Glenn!!

[Ratzo]

That was a sweet read, way to go Glenn.

[SCpoloRicker]

**DISCLAIMER: On an emotional level, I fully support Glenn Palmer's effort to stop all of the lawsuits and patent enforcement issues currently occuring. I mean this only as a comment on the sad state of affairs**

I hope somebody knows a good lawyer. K2 is an extremely large organization, and they have bought out companies in a wide range of industries/sports/hobbies. I would believe that they have a large cadre of lawyers ready and rarin' to go.

If SP could push through a patent enforcement on all electronic trigger frame based systems, due to the purchase of PneuVenture distribution (which was 1997-ish?), it's not much of a leap to say WGP established the pneumatically operated, closed bolt, "auto-cocking," pump gun system.

K2 > SP

Good luck Glenn.

[DiSoRdeR]

Am I the only one who does not know who K2 is?

[warbeak2099]

Big outsider corporation that purchased BE/Viewloader/JT USA and WGP. Mucho dinero...