Looks like Glen Palmer might throw his hat in ...

[DiSoRdeR]

Big outsider corporation that purchased BE/Viewloader/JT USA and WGP. Mucho dinero...

When did this happen?

[StormSurge]

WOW............... OMG that is the coolest thing that I have heard in a long time. I would love if Glenn would just wipe his @$$ with their patents. LONG LIVE BLOW FORWARD. LONG LIVE AUTOMAG. LONG LIVE AGD.

[scrumpy]

As awesome as this sounds, what if Palmer gets shut down hardcore? That would be embarrasing as....I'm not saying it's likely, but you know, what if?

[Jack & Coke]

from:http://www.paintmagazine.com/cgi-bin...8&thread=15634

Originally posted by GP@PPS

Originally posted by Brophog


I don't think he has any plans to push it. Glenn isn't after money or fame, if he was, he'd have pushed the subject a long time ago.

He just wants K2 to realize that they, in trying to force other people out for intellectual property that they do not have, are wrong, and as such, K2 needs to realize this and cease.

That's all that letter is trying to do.

EXACTLY RIGHT !!!!

I could not have described it any better.

Proving my point beyond any reasonable doubt will be no problem at all and Bud knows it.

Yes, two prime pieces of evidence have been stolen but I could easily replicate them if need be and there is a lot more where those came from anyway. Even just dated magazine references would meet the burden of "a perponderance" of the evidence.

K2 has not yet responded and I kind of doubt they will. I don't think they want what I know and can proove, to become a matter of fact in the public record; and there is little that would give me greater satisfaction.

No, I didn't patent the automation system or any of the component designs but I did try to make sure that no one else could patent any of it legitimately either.

"and that's all I have to say about that".

[Mckevern]

You forgot something Storm

WOW............... OMG that is the coolest thing that I have heard in a long time. I would love if Glenn would just wipe his @$$ with their patents. LONG LIVE BLOW FORWARD. LONG LIVE AUTOMAG. LONG LIVE AGD.

Excuse me .... Long live Palmer Pursuit!!!

[Mckevern]

Here's a kicker ...

Big outsider corporation that purchased BE/Viewloader/JT USA and WGP. Mucho dinero...

I wonder if that includes Challenge Park Extreme ....

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

we should have a parade

[Muzikman]

I wonder if that includes Challenge Park Extreme ....

The BE, JT and ViewLoader buy out all happened before CPX was under BE control

[spantol]

I wonder if that includes Challenge Park Extreme ....

Sure does. You can see a list of everything under the K2 umbrella here: http://www.k2inc.net/

[MiniSpdRcr]

I have a cocker that I am building myself. I dont like any out there, plus the only WGP part I am using...is...well nothing...I used a lot of Glenns stuff on it. I know what WGP did, and do not support it. But that doesnt mean I dont like the gun he made. Thats why I have both AGD and WGP.

[G3PB]

The real points are these. Some of us were threatened with suit over trademark violations, some of us over other matters. The letters from K2's attorney's were hazzt at best since they really didn't know what they were doing. When I responded to my suit letter, I informed them that I will comply with the trademark violations since they are technically due those. Other items, such as trade dress, etc, etc, I politely told them I would not comply with since they have no bearing, no application, no meaning to me whatsoever. Mainly because most of what I was accused of, I didn't do, so that told me they did not have a clue.

I emailed back and forth with AM and told them I'd ignore it since they were full of crap, but only to comply with the technical aspects of the trademark use of "Autococker"(tm)

The trademarks cannot be denied so we really have no choice on those. As far as complete markers, which is what they are really after, they do not have a leg to stand on as Glenn pointed out, they didn't invent the bloody thing anyway and we all saw how WGP's suit against AKA turned out.

Glenn could really no more sue them than they could clone manufacturers. He knows this but his intent seems to be to inform K2/WGP that if push comes to shove, he has the proof to make them back down......

[slasherdan]

Either way ...

I was always wondering if Glen was going to say something to them ...

This goes out to him ....



And this to K2 and SP ....

[Paladin]

It's about time Glenn spoke up for himself since, allegedly, Jeff Orr stole the only working prototype"Autococker"(Camille) from Glenns luggage.

WHOA !!!!!! Don't go there.
Yes, Camille was stolen from my truck right after an event in So Cal but I have no clue as to who took it.

Besides, Camille was not the "prototype for the 'cocker" as it was arranged a bit differently.
Another gun, a double barreled, pistol format piece, which was actually the 4th semi that I built, was the one that was configured in the format that later was built into the 'cocker. Right down to the front mounted pneumatics and a sliding trigger. That was the actual piece that used to help Bud understand how to make it work on his equipment. That too was stolen from my 5th wheel trailer at an event, also in SoCal, about 3 months before Camille was stolen. Fortunately, I still have a few paintguns around here that were built in that same configuration, as well as some other Hurricanes (Camille style) that all date back to well before WGP figured out how to make it work.

[ghideon]

Man Glenn, is it me or do you get a lot of stuff stolen?

I guess it does suck to be popular...

WHOA !!!!!! Don't go there.
Yes, Camille was stolen from my truck right after an event in So Cal but I have no clue as to who took it.

Besides, Camille was not the "prototype for the 'cocker" as it was arranged a bit differently.
Another gun, a double barreled, pistol format piece, which was actually the 4th semi that I built, was the one that was configured in the format that later was built into the 'cocker. Right down to the front mounted pneumatics and a sliding trigger. That was the actual piece that used to help Bud understand how to make it work on his equipment. That too was stolen from my 5th wheel trailer at an event, also in SoCal, about 3 months before Camille was stolen. Fortunately, I still have a few paintguns around here that were built in that same configuration, as well as some other Hurricanes (Camille style) that all date back to well before WGP figured out how to make it work.

[G3PB]

Glenn, did Colin do his AutoSpirit before or after Bud did the Cocker ?