Hybrid has a Bad Day

[FSU_Paintball]

looks like yakitori got banned for 5 weeks
looks like it's also not the first time he's been banned for flaming

color me surprised

actually, color that last statement sarcastic.

[SCpoloRicker]

looks like yakitori got banned for 5 weeks
looks like it's also not the first time he's been banned for flaming

color me surprised

actually, color that last statement sarcastic.

Wait till you meet his alter-ego!

[ramennoodles]

Anyone notice that the contract killer link in the grips section of the hybrid site doesn't work?

[CrimsonGhost]

No Eric, you're not alone.

Yakitori-you could have garnered a much different response to your side of the argument if you could have been more civil about it. Say you don't care, go ahead, but your rants are very poorly formulated and have got you caught up trying to explain yourself to the point that it seems like you don't even know what you're thinking.

I am NOT going to defend you, because I don't agree with your position in the least, but I do try to read between the lines of your ravings and see that there is some merit to be attributed to it. It's just too bad that you have to be so primitive with your choice of wording. If you would have been able to stay in control of your emotions, then no one would have had a reason to call you an idiot.

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Thank you ... I wanted to say something similar but..Have given WAAAAY to much time and thought to this already.

I will just quote you ...Hope thats not theft of an idea...please don't send a note to my mom


Well said.

[rabidchihauhau]

I won't jump into the Yakitori bs except to ask - why does he care so much?

as for 'no prooof';

the BALANCE of the evidence suggests that IOI has not licensed any of their material to any paintball company.

if so, it is unlikely that hybrid will make any kind of a public statement regarding the issue.

on IP matters:

some of you people seem to think that if stolen property doesn't result in huge sales or noteriety, there's "little or no harm done", and on that score, you are wrong.

IP holder's HAVE to demonstrate that they take ownership of their property seriously and make every reasonable effort to protect it, otherwise, they risk losing it. If something is copied or used improperly endlessly, with no action taken, the argument against such things is seriously weakened. "Your honor, for years, this company, that company, the other company has used these images publicly, with no issue. Why is my client now being sued for doing what everyone else has been doing for years...?"

Its an issue of abandonment; allowing people willy nilly to use that property almost places it in the public domain.

So it doesn't matter how much money was made at all. The guy putting it on t-shirts and selling a couple of hundred is just as potentially damaging as the guy selling millions of dollars worth of pirated stuff.

Heck, Johnson & Johnson spent probably millions on trying to get people to stop calling all facial tissues 'kleenex' because such public use was diluting their brand name.

[AgentSmith]

This has been very entertaining reading, indeed... I read at around 800WPM and I still couldn't finish it all!

The funniest concept to me is that Slartybartfast 'should have contacted hybrid' .

By this logic if I see a man raping someone's mother on the street, I should go warn him before I call the cops! "oh no, it's just a picture!" I'll hear. When is crime 'OK'?

So if I went to the next tournament and cleaned out every gear bag in the place and drove away with $120,000 dollars worth of neon colored paintball gear, I'd be AGG???

OOHH, that crime's not OK???

Hmmm... It seems that those who benefit from the crime, probably shouldn't be allowed to determine it's criminality. It's almost like that's what courts were for?!?!?

All these people that glam up criminals crack me up, they couldn't care less what is stolen or what laws are broken as long as they benefit OR EVEN THINK they might benefit someday, but watch the worm turn and see them start to cry when they get damaged.

Amusing.

Rob

[slade]

The funniest concept to me is that Slartybartfast 'should have contacted hybrid' .

By this logic if I see a man raping someone's mother on the street, I should go warn him before I call the cops! "oh no, it's just a picture!" I'll hear. When is crime 'OK'?

next time you use an analogy, pick one that works.

reasons for contacting hybrid first:

maybe they DID have licencing for the image. the response from IOI makes it aparent that they didnt, but with the information available at the time they very well could have.

the fact that they needed a licence for the image would have been brought to their attention. They may or may not have made an attempt to get the necessary licencing, what you do next could be based on their response and what they do.

the fact that he DIDNT contact hybrid first, along with the fact that he started 2 threads with titles like this, shows he pretty much did it for attention. he went out of his way to tell IOI about hybrid, and then brags about it.

rape would be obvious and require immediate action. a case of intellectual property theft? that doesnt have to be resolved quickly, and the only real damages (if any) are monetary. comparing them together is like saying stealing and mass murder are both crimes, so theifs should be executed.

[SlartyBartFast]

maybe they DID have licencing for the image.

If they did, either IOI or Hybride could just have said yes. Wouldn't matter who was contacted first.

the fact that they needed a licence for the image would have been brought to their attention.

Which would have changed what?

the fact that he DIDNT contact hybrid first, along with the fact that he started 2 threads with titles like this, shows he pretty much did it for attention. he went out of his way to tell IOI about hybrid, and then brags about it..

Wow. Two whole threads. Actually, I posted in three.

1 - The original thread questioning the piracy of images and logos in paintball.
2 - A thread meant to bring the issue to the attention of the general PBN community.
3 - A thread on AO. Not everyone is on both, and it was more because I was amused at the immature responses. Less of them here, but I see they're here non-the-less.

Out of my way? 30seconds of Google, 1 quick e-mail to the first found address. IOI got it because THEIR contact us link worked.

Brag? How is saying what the situation is bragging?

Attention? Well, considering the number of "LOOK AT MY AGG MARKER" threads, I think that regardless of motives the threads are far better than most of the attention seekers that constitute 90% of all posts.

is like saying stealing and mass murder are both crimes, so theifs should be executed.

No. Saying that justice should be swift against all theifs does not equate to saying the punishment should be the same.

[SCpoloRicker]

Je ne comprende pas. Tout le monde d'ici ne pensent rien.
Quel dommage.

[Steelrat]

[Lohman446]

the fact that they needed a licence for the image would have been brought to their attention. They may or may not have made an attempt to get the necessary licencing, what you do next could be based on their response and what they do.

Your argument requires a reasonable beleif that Hybrid did not know they need permission to use a coyrighted image. To beleive that you would have to beleive the people at this company were total idiots. I just don't beleive it.

[mobsterboy]

while agentsmiths analogy was far off base, it gave the needed impression he was looking for, cops are notified first.
Steelrat...rock on man...er yeah
everyone chill out. Until it is your company, your opinions = squat. Im sure this will be out of court settlement and a copyright will soon to follow. As far as copyrights go, who knows if hybrid doesnt already have agreements with the companies for their images. Lets let hybrid and IOI make their moves, then complain at least ppl. All i see is 280 useless posts, 281 including mine, and all the whining in the world doesnt mean a thing.

[Carbon]

LOL i would actually have a drink with this guy.

[slade]

Your argument requires a reasonable beleif that Hybrid did not know they need permission to use a coyrighted image. To beleive that you would have to beleive the people at this company were total idiots. I just don't beleive it.

or, it would give them a chance to contact IOI themselves. It would tell them people have noticed and they should probably work things out with IOI.

Out of my way? 30seconds of Google, 1 quick e-mail to the first found address. IOI got it because THEIR contact us link worked.

Brag? How is saying what the situation is bragging?

Attention? Well, considering the number of "LOOK AT MY AGG MARKER" threads, I think that regardless of motives the threads are far better than most of the attention seekers that constitute 90% of all posts.

regardless, you were not involved in the situation, and chose to enter into it solely for the purpose of stirring everything up. Your threads seem to have a "look what i did" ring to them... and posting pictures of a marker isnt exactly the same as writing to a company and potentially getting another company sued. its not really a matter of how "good" the threads are.

i have nothing against you personally. at this point there isnt really any reason to argue anymore, so i may just quit this thread.

[SCpoloRicker]

or, it would give them a chance to contact IOI themselves. It would tell them people have noticed and they should probably work things out with IOI.

Just a tidbit. This thread has been good (for the most part), and you're obviously not just spouting off.

That said; (IMO) Hybrid has no right to a "heads-up" that they may be infringing on I.P. Thats illegal, and as others have mentioned the onus is on Hybrid to figure out who owns the rights to the images they want to use.

/not a creative
//account guy