Dan Tiljack Cheats with WALK-ONS?

[luke]

#1
Yes, the guy on the sideline should have kept his mouth shut, but it just as easily could have been a team mate. Expect to get lit up if you approach a bunker like that, regardless of the situation, or don't do it.

#2
I think you play "over the top" of your bunker too much.

#3
I loved the part where the kid is screaming for a pod and out comes the 10 round tube.

And as Forrest, Forrest Gump would say "and that's all I have to say about that".

[luke]

Wait a minute, so this pro player that was "playing hardball" against the walk ons was playing a rather laid back game staying in the back. And when he became aware of someone trying to bunker him he went all out. Now I am far from a pro player, but I do play a lot of mixed groups. If you are new player at walk on, you get cut slack, I am not going to push your side of the field, I am not going to bunker you, and I am going to offer you surrender options if I get close. That being said, you play hard, come into my bunker, regardless of your level of skill or equipment I am going to make every effort to "school" you for it. If you get in my face over someone elses actions about it, I am going to get right back in yours. I had an argument once about "coaching" on field, where I did receive some justified coaching. We then got over it and get along just fine. To have someone walk around after me, and feel the need to call me on anything I might do wrong, because I have annoyed them, isn't going to fly. I personally think that Danny handled the situation as well as he could have, considering the aggressiveness of Tyger.

I get the feeling that Tyger went out looking for problems... and he found a dishonest player (ok, spectator).. Anyone surprised? Anyone else notice Tyger advancing on a player being checked by the ref?

Well said, excellent post, I agree completely.

[thecavemankevin]

1. The guy that started this thread stating Tiljack cheats with walk-ons and not having any evidence of that statement
2. The loud mouth that blurted out from the side lines giving Tyger away
3. and Tyger for making that video in the sensationalistic style of stupid fat Michael Moore

Get over it and quite ruining my life!!!


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[gmp211]

Actaully, I came here because PBN deleted the thread, so Dynasty will not get a badder image. I just thought I would share it with you, not have a flame war.(Unlike PBN. I should be paid to be a firefighter ) I can see some are mad. And Im not blaming Tiljack. Better yet, I just dont know why the field is like that, and people do, do that stuff.

[Steelrat]

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

Nothing is more important than safety in the game, NOTHING. And pro-players, who really are the primary ambassadors of the sport, should go above and beyond to show the correct way to do things. Throwing a swab, AKA potential projectile, down the barrel, while "cool" and "old school," is just stupid and dangerous. Personally, when I saw someone at a field doing something unsage, I made sure it was resolved.

And yelling from the sidelines is a cheap and sleazy tactic. I don't care if they do it in XYZ tournament series, its just unsportsmanlike. It should be my sill (or lack thereof) versus yours, without any outside interference.

[gmp211]

Woah, That wasn't a rant nor flame! On PBN, all they did was flame. And the reason Tyger gets made and did all that, is because he wanted to show, that speedballers think it's 'OK' to do stuff like that.

[Steelrat]

Woah, That wasn't a rant nor flame! On PBN, all they did was flame. And the reason Tyger gets made and did all that, is because he wanted to show, that speedballers think it's 'OK' to do stuff like that.

This is no longer a sport where good sportsmanship and courtesy are valued attributes. Aggressive behavior, in-your-face antics, and thuggish attitude seem to be the norm, at least in speedball.

[shartley]

Actaully, I came here because PBN deleted the thread, so Dynasty will not get a badder image. I just thought I would share it with you, not have a flame war.(Unlike PBN. I should be paid to be a firefighter ) I can see some are mad. And Im not blaming Tiljack. Better yet, I just dont know why the field is like that, and people do, do that stuff.

About the field, I got a PM from Tyger last night.

"gmp211 wrote:
Send E-mails to fields.(Like the one you were at with Tiljack) And do the FPS, but notice on the refs. Like say to the field you were at. That you would sell some footage, of there refs not supporting rules, and even braking some.


Just an Idea."
__________________________________________________ ________________________________________
Tyger wrote:
"That field won't care. They've already had an eye injury in the staging area, and lost. They're under new management, and from all I see they don't care.

Besides, they'll see it. I know they will."

[thecavemankevin]

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

Nothing is more important than safety in the game, NOTHING. And pro-players, who really are the primary ambassadors of the sport, should go above and beyond to show the correct way to do things. Throwing a swab, AKA potential projectile, down the barrel, while "cool" and "old school," is just stupid and dangerous. Personally, when I saw someone at a field doing something unsage, I made sure it was resolved.

And yelling from the sidelines is a cheap and sleazy tactic. I don't care if they do it in XYZ tournament series, its just unsportsmanlike. It should be my sill (or lack thereof) versus yours, without any outside interference.

i never said what he did was right. In fact i specifically said what Tiljack did was wrong. However, what's even worse is that Tyger saw it, recognized it, and sensationalized it. Moreover, he did nothing to resolve the problem...only point it out and yell from his high horse...."hey everyone look at the pro player breaking the rules"

He's no better than someone that complains that XXX won an election, yet he did not vote so he should not have a let to stand on.

[Steelrat]

i never said what he did was right. In fact i specifically said what Tiljack did was wrong. However, what's even worse is that Tyger saw it, recognized it, and sensationalized it. Moreover, he did nothing to resolve the problem...only point it out and yell from his high horse...."hey everyone look at the pro player breaking the rules"

He's no better than someone that complains that XXX won an election, yet he did not vote so he should not have a let to stand on.

Well, if you go back and re-read your post, you said it was "petty," whereas I believe there is nothing more important out there than safety, not only to prevent injuries, but to promote the long-term viability of the sport. I'm glad he sensationalized it. That guy is a pro, yet he can't cough up $2 for a barrel bag? I have 5 of the damn things in my kit I bring everywhere. Thats basic safety 101 right there.

Personally, I think the whole pro team scene needed to be taken down a notch or two. Some of the posts I saw from Dynasty members were juvenile in the extreme, and all their fanboi's and their idle worship makes me ill.

[tribalman]

Who the hell wants to catch flies?

Two comments:

1. Battle swab as barrel plug - Unacceptable. What could happen if that swab were blown out of the barrel and hit someone in the safe area? The stated rule, as verified three times by the ref, was that the ONLY barrel-blocking device to be used is a cover/condom/sock. It's a field rule, therefore, it should be adhered to. NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE...

from what i've heard, someone did get shot in the eye at this field. i would think this would be the number one rule at their field, over enforced in fact. but ccp used to be my favorite field, but it got too dirty. the field almost always has as layer of paint on the ground. and the comment about ramping/cheating, it is in effect there.

[gmp211]

Yes, that field is messed up. The refs show it all.

As far as this conversation. It turned out better then I thought. Atleast it didn't get deleted! I started 2 at PBN, both got flamed and deleted.

[Furby]

That's some funny stuff, I don't care what anyone says.

Tiljack wasn't doing anything wrong as far as I can see...even the best players in the world still love to play, and if the guy wants to play, then no problem on this end.

The douchebag at the net calling out that Tyger was coming is just that...a douchebag.

Tyger is one of those guys you either love or hate...personally, I applaud him for doing this, and I think he should do it more often. It takes a brave man to #1, walk out onto a field today with a stockgun, and #2 videotape the experience and show it publicly. Seems to me that Tyger is willing to put his skills on display for everyone to see, good or bad. Hell, I wouldn't be willing to do that...but I suck!

Sadly, what Tyger documented is status quo for quite a bit of the walk-on community these days...it's about time it was shown for the world to see. If a field op has a problem with someone filming/taking pictures, it makes you wonder what they're worried about. So long as the photographer/videographer wears a mask and signs the field waiver, then there's no real excuse for it other than the field op has something to hide, or is just flat out overly sensitive.

Hell, I'll have to get up his way sometime and play some 'ball with him...

[gmp211]

Tyger is the man! I know that. I talk to him over the 'net.

If you watch the other FPS videos he makes. He made 2 barrel tags in a ROW!

[behemoth]

I NEED A POD!!!

"need 10?"