Dan Tiljack Cheats with WALK-ONS?

[Lohman446]

Personally... Tyger, and I have nothing against you

After seeing you and your aggressiveness with the sideline coach, if you had asked me if I had played tournaments I would have told you, without hesitation that I did... and I would have, considering the tone of voice and previous actions, expected the situation to escalate. I would have been ok with that... Dan attempted, it seemed to me, to difuse a situation, through a lie. Can one really fault him with that?

[punkncat]

Are you for real? A safety rule is a safety rule, period. this guy knew it and didnt Care.
Are you one of those uninformed, uneducated players I keep talking about. Split hairs my butt, you dont see no reason because you are not informed and educated in Paintball safety.
Will you think it warrents attention when somebodys eye gets shot out?????

What ever.............Tyger got burned for sure and as an ex SemiPro player all I can say is you NEVER would catch me breaking a MAJOR safety rule. Thats the whole problem, players today have no respect for SAFETY or The RULES.

Mmm, I suppose to the letter of the rules I must agree with you. I am "informed" and a very safety conscious person. I regularly ref at my local field and have never had a problem with anyone getting their eye shot out.

Now, aside from the "letter of the rule" which says you must use a barrel cover....lets use common sense for a moment. You take a very experianced player who knows how to TURN OFF an electronic marker(I have to admit I am guessing this). You take that same marker and stuff a barrel swab all the way up the barrel and it has become a safe marker. The only thing he could have done with that marker was beat someone with it. I have seen barrel condoms be shot off the end of a marker within a few shots. It would have taken quite a few shots to remove that swab from the end of the barrel as well, if it would have come out at all. We can see him hold that marker by the snatch grip. He isn't dry firing it or pointing towards someone. With the number of hours that fellow has a marker in his hands I think I would trust him to be safe with it in spite of the lack of a "proper" barrel blocking device than I would many number of other less experianced players.


Would I have allowed it on my field while reffing? Well probably not.

Would I have mentioned it to a ref? Meh..not really sure, but the point is that even if I had, once it was done that would have been the end of my involvement with it.

I have a policy about field safety where I am not reffing. If I don't like it or think that something extremely lax is going on I have the ability to pack my stuff and go. I do not have to get self righteous and make an ordeal about it. Throwing people up on the cross while secretly making a film wasn't neccesary. I am pretty certain that you could go to any number of fields and find things wrong if you looked hard enough.

[Crazy]

Anyone care to post a link to the video here?

[thecavemankevin]

Anyone care to post a link to the video here?

there already is a link about 1/2 way down the first page if i recall correctly

[Crazy]

there already is a link about 1/2 way down the first page if i recall correctly

I can't for the life of me find it on the first page... I scanned through the other 3 also.

[hitech]

Here you go...

Looks like they nuked the thread over there. Here is the link to the page with the vid. FPS 5 is the one you want.

http://webdog.specialopspaintball.com/video/fps/

[jfreak]

Mmm, I suppose to the letter of the rules I must agree with you. I am "informed" and a very safety conscious person. I regularly ref at my local field and have never had a problem with anyone getting their eye shot out.

Now, aside from the "letter of the rule" which says you must use a barrel cover....lets use common sense for a moment. You take a very experianced player who knows how to TURN OFF an electronic marker(I have to admit I am guessing this). You take that same marker and stuff a barrel swab all the way up the barrel and it has become a safe marker. The only thing he could have done with that marker was beat someone with it. I have seen barrel condoms be shot off the end of a marker within a few shots. It would have taken quite a few shots to remove that swab from the end of the barrel as well, if it would have come out at all. We can see him hold that marker by the snatch grip. He isn't dry firing it or pointing towards someone. With the number of hours that fellow has a marker in his hands I think I would trust him to be safe with it in spite of the lack of a "proper" barrel blocking device than I would many number of other less experianced players.


Would I have allowed it on my field while reffing? Well probably not.

Would I have mentioned it to a ref? Meh..not really sure, but the point is that even if I had, once it was done that would have been the end of my involvement with it.

I have a policy about field safety where I am not reffing. If I don't like it or think that something extremely lax is going on I have the ability to pack my stuff and go. I do not have to get self righteous and make an ordeal about it. Throwing people up on the cross while secretly making a film wasn't neccesary. I am pretty certain that you could go to any number of fields and find things wrong if you looked hard enough.

punkncat, your very responses are enough to prove that your safety consciousness is suspect. As a ref myself, I often play at other facilities, and would never hesitate to point out a safety violation such as that. In just about every case, the refs are greatful for the extra help(especially with newbs and the whole 'mask on' thing) True, I could also leave for the night, but my consciense(sp) would forever be scarred if someone got hurt after I left. A barrel swab/squeegee is designed to fit snugly yet move freely through the barrel, and while it may be able to hold back a dozen shots before it flies out, as a truely safety minded person why would you take a chance on it? And by the way, Tyger had to share a staging area with said marker. Was it worth his eye or anyone elses just for one guy to be cool?


BTW, Tyger I support what you did, just next time, try to be a bit less confrontational, 'K? If I was Tiljak I would have figured you were looking for a fight and probably blew you off too and avoid a confrontation.

[1stdeadeye]

My take:

Tyger you are a whiney little child.

I guess we are so lucky that you are honest, so lucky......

First off, why doesn't a pro player have the right to play for fun? Why does he have to answer your question? Did you ever stop and think for a moment he was trying to stay undercover? Maybe he was just playing for fun with some friends. Maybe he said no because he did not know that you were an equally "famous" paintball personality who could understand him not wanting to be bothered and just have fun.

Your choice of music clearly shows you agenda.

I love the comparrison in this thread to Michael Moore. You sit your fat little but behind the computer and edit the footage to suit your point of view. You add commentary and music. Then you claim to be stating just the facts.

Sorry you are Michael Moore (right down to the "Husky" on your jeans) and not Joe Friday!

Tell you what, I'll let Albinonewt chime in and you can threaten him again and then deny that too.

You Tyger are pathetic.

[mobsterboy]

yeah yeah, and the sky is falling
who gives a crap. I mean really. He cheated, he prob cheats all the time, and why do we need a 96 post count thread on this?

[tyrion2323]

yeah yeah, and the sky is falling
who gives a crap. I mean really. He cheated, he prob cheats all the time, and why do we need a 96 post count thread on this?

How did he cheat? No, really - what was his offense?

[PissedGodzilla]

How did he cheat? No, really - what was his offense?

Personally I think that douchebag behind him was probably telling him throughout the day. I like how the little fifteenyearold mexican with the mustache things he's all big.

You talk like that to the wrong person, your gonna get jumped.


The plain fact of the matter is that field has seriously crappy refs, who frankly don't give a crap about the rules. I won't be going there anytime soon.


And a dynasty player accused of cheating??? like that's never happened before...

[1stdeadeye]

Personally I think that douchebag behind him was probably telling him throughout the day. I like how the little fifteenyearold mexican with the mustache things he's all big.

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If that was the case, you know Tyger would have edited the film to show multiple instance throught an ENTIRE day of play. Not a one time occurrance.

[PissedGodzilla]

it doesn't matter how many times somebody cheats... one cheat is too many... I can't believe you are arguing FOR cheating deadeye wtf is wrong with you?

[1stdeadeye]

it doesn't matter how many times somebody cheats... one cheat is too many... I can't believe you are arguing FOR cheating deadeye wtf is wrong with you?

I am not advocating cheating. You saw one side of the story. Ask Nick about AO SC II! I know about being accused of cheating when you did not do it. Even Nick said I was in the right.

If anyone cheated, it was the little jerk in the dead box. I am no fan boy of dynasty, but I know better then to take Tyger's unbiased word. Ask Newt about him.

[tyrion2323]

Personally I think that douchebag behind him was probably telling him throughout the day. I like how the little fifteenyearold mexican with the mustache things he's all big.

You talk like that to the wrong person, your gonna get jumped.


The plain fact of the matter is that field has seriously crappy refs, who frankly don't give a crap about the rules. I won't be going there anytime soon.


And a dynasty player accused of cheating??? like that's never happened before...

Speculation doesn't mean squat. How was Danny Tiljak cheating? That's the name of the thread, and that's what's being insinuated by both Tyger's videos and subsequent posts. He's being lambasted for what? Playing paintball? He didn't cheat, and he has every right to play with walk ons. It didn't seem from the video that he was overshooting, acting like a jerk or treating other players wrongly. I've seen plenty of jerks shout out from the sidelines. I've also seen parents and girlfriends do it as well.

So the question is: how was Danny Tiljak cheating?

I'm not a particularly big Dynasty fan, nor do I even really care much about American Pro Paintball. I simply think this thread and that video are purposefully inflammatory for the sake of being inflammatory. Trouble seems to find Tyger wherever he goes, which makes it sort of apparent to me that he's far different from a whistleblower. His actions are more like that of a drama-queen - he's always looking for a fight. This is just like his old threads about cheating, ramping, etc - meant to stir controversy.