Airball Sucks

[sbpyro]

For the love of paintball please let this thread die already oh wait am I contributing to the problem.

First off I'm more of a woodsball player cuz that is what I enjoy doing.
But on occasion I do play speedball.
The common thing I find is a lot of woodsball players are not use to receiving what they consider a stream of paint. But it is all part of the game. When I play woodsball it is to a more spread out situations but you have someone provide cover and you move. Speedball is the same thing in more compact playing field. Laning in crucial whether in woodsball or speedball.
I've played in a small outdoorfield where off the break our backplayers took out 4 to 5 players by laning.
I played a game of speed ball for my buddies bachelor party and it end being the wedding party (3 of us) versus the rest of the group (7) on the break I laned out 2 guys making it a 3 on 5 (actually it was a 2 on 5 since the groom was out of air). Proceeded from the back corner to the snake and picked off one of the back players before a lucky shot got me. (lucky not because he got me buy the shot went through the hole (for adjusting the lpr) of the shroud for my cocker).

The only thing that I really think that blows in paintball right now is the whole attitude of some of the new players (both speedball and woodsball). Cheating, and attitude problems have no place for this sport i remember the sportsmanship aspect of the game and long for those days.

[Aslan]

Aslan, again, you're putting words into people's mouths.

NOBODY has said that ROF is the only thing that matters here. Nobody has said that paintball is all about equipment. In fact, quite the opposite has been said.

Seriously, it's like you don't even read the posts before responding.

What's annoying about this topic is two-fold:

1) It really doesn't matter how many people post that speedball is dependent more on streams of paint and ROF...as soon as you turn around and say, "So speedball is about equipment then?"...everybody cries foul. It's just weird because if you feel that the game is so dependent on streams and ROF...why not just admit it instead of claiming that ROF tactics are awesome and then (when cornered) turning around and saying, "No...it's not about ROF at all...it's all skill...I never said it was all about the marker...you misread my post!"

2) Why is it that whenever there's a poll on this topic (skill vs physical ability vs equipment), and there have been like 200 of them, the poll always comes out 60-70% skill, 20-30% equipment, and 10% physical ability. Yet there seem to still be so many people that deep down in their hearts don't really feel that way? Is it because they don't want to admit that they have less "skill" and rely on their marker? I mean, from what I've learned in this thread, maybe ROF is a legitimate way to play. If you lay down 8 pods of paint...and never hit anything...and shooting any slower than 20bps would cause your team to lose...then maybe that is an acceptable way to win. And if it is, and that were my job, I would just come out and say, "hey, the more bps I get, the better I am...I don't really move very much...it's pretty much all about communicating with teammates and my marker's ability." I don't think there's "shame" in that statement...it's just an honest statement.

An don't take that the wrong way...I'm not trying to say that speedball is for players with no skill...if it weren't for airball I would have never learned to snapshoot...I'm just saying that us woodsballers get crucified on nearly every forum (except specops) and told that the only reason we play in the woods and not in tourneys and the only reason we use mech guns and wear camo is because we don't have the "skills" to compete at a higher level. Yet, what it seems like is:

1) Most woodsballers, like myself, just like woodsball better...so that's what they play.
2) Alot of woodsballers just don't feel like spending thousands on a marker set-up and hundreds of dollars a day on paint to acheive the ROF necessary for success in speedball. There are exceptions...the milsim crowd putting a grand into upgrades that do nothing except make their "marker" look like a "gun"...but that's a small percentage of the woodsball contingency.

[hipster]

1 If you like woods ball that good
2 most average airball players don't spend that much on the guns there are plenty of ions spiders and old cheap angels and matrix's on the fields
most air ballers anly use a case of paint on a nomal day, way back in the day when i played wood ball I still used a case of paint
in a tourny you might use a lot of paint , but woods ballers use a lot at the big events also

so paint is all relitive to the way you play and the amount of time you spend on the field woods or air ball makes no diff

the same average number who spend for the latest and greatest is the average number that spends to upgrade the woods guns


its all good as long as its paintball if anything speedball and airball put paintall back on the map and in doing so also helped others find woodsball because most airball fields have a woods feild in the back for those that are new to also try ( not the other way around )