Airball Sucks

[warbeak2099]

Your first post showed that you do not have a good enough understanding of the game for most of us to give a care about your opinions. Sorry..

Took a 4 on 1 with my mech mag this weekend at a ramping allowed field.. yeh its all about paint thrown

ghost_flanker, read Lohman's post and shut the hell up.

[ShadowNife]

hey, flanker might not be "educated" in terms of the differences and such, and while his opinion may be poorly based, he's still another user on these forums.

warbeak2099 and others, he was right when saying that it's turning into PBN in here. Rather than explaining, you're just flaming. Not exactly the spirit of AO IMO.

yes, given flanker is a bit hard-headed in his opinion, but seriously people

[bentothejam1n]

I think airball is at a good point right now. Sure I think some improvements could be made like kids not having complete control of thier parents check book (I always buy my own stuff, my parents have never boughten me anything thats paintball oriented besides on my bday and christmas) and I think that sportsmanship should improve. I play out in the woods with a bunch of my friends and a dad and wehn never have problems with sportmanship. Also I think some pros cuss way to much like to the point where its lost its meaning as a word. Its not like i have a problem with cussing but like before a game at a div 1 circuit with a ton of people around, isnt exactly a family friendly scene
/seriously, wheres behemoth?

[White_Noise]

I think airball is at a good point right now. Sure I think some improvements could be made like kids not having complete control of thier parents check book (I always buy my own stuff, my parents have never boughten me anything thats paintball oriented besides on my bday and christmas) and I think that sportsmanship should improve. I play out in the woods with a bunch of my friends and a dad and wehn never have problems with sportmanship. Also I think some pros cuss way to much like to the point where its lost its meaning as a word. Its not like i have a problem with cussing but like before a game at a div 1 circuit with a ton of people around, isnt exactly a family friendly scene
/seriously, wheres behemoth?

in response to your cussing comment...try putting a mic on a football field...or any sport for that manner.

as for those who say its turning into PBN....i can see where sometimes this can be seen, but not in this instance, if you want to talk about people doing things that are PBNish...look at Ghost Flanker....he basically started a thread to incite a flame fest. plenty of us have shown that his arguments are way off base, and misguided, and have even provided explainations as to why, yet he has not come up with any meaningful reply. If he wants to be blind and not even think of the possibility that the sport can exist in multiple forms, so be it, but there is no need to post such beliefs with the intent of starting an argument. and even so, if youre going to start an argument, atleast be able to back up your claims.

[bentothejam1n]

in response to your cussing comment...try putting a mic on a football field...or any sport for that manner

I play football and the onyl times I cuss on the field is if we get in a fight. Now if you put a mic a coach thats losing at halftime.... thats another story. But I dont think cussing on a football is as prevelant as on a paintball field.

[ej_y4]

This wasnt the best way to make your point. If you dont like like speed ball/ air ball, you dont like it.

However is Conquest is the field you are using to back up your claims why its bad, you might want to rething that. (im not trashing Conquest, I have played there for years and i will be there this saturday). Only resently have they bothered to get an Airball field. Conquest is more of a field for woods ball anyways.Also Conquest the last 2 years has been over crowded. That why games seem to never end there, 30 on 30 or 50 on 50 are huge games.

I for one love speed ball. It takes a huge amount of skill, every move that happens takes percision. As for the throwing paint arguement, Laning is an important part of the game.Just to let you know I own "fast guns" you are taking about (timmy, autococker, mag if you wantthat to count) but i normally use my phantom in Air ball. I have won countless game with my pump, it just takes skill and timing. Airball is faster pass, which to me makes it more injoyable

[ghost flanker]

Jesus. Some of you people are cut-throat! Are you going to chase me down the street next waving torches and pitchforks yelling, "KILL THE MONSTER!!!"

Fine!! There's strategy involved in speedball! Airball is perfect the way it is and anyone who says or thinks otherwise shall be banished from the land!

Look, I'm glad you all love airball and you're probably all really good at it too. But don't insult me or attack my character just to discredit my argument. I never insulted anyone here, never called anyone names. I realize I originally came off a little strong and insensitive, and I apologize if my initial posting offended anyone (and I attempted to civilly rephrase it in several other posts) but originally I put that up out of the sheer frustration that people who use daddy's credit card to spend more money on more paint have a clear advantage over my poverty stricken ***, particularly in airball. Sure, skill counts... and I can hold my own with a mech mag in a speedball game full of angels and timmies as well, but I simply seem to have much more fun when shooting less paint or using a larger field to flank behind an enemy undetected (and I wanted to meet people who felt the same way). Am I allowed to say that? Is it retarded or stupid or uninformed of me to say that? Is it retarded or stupid to say, "Hey, I think that something might be more enjoyable if we did this." I'm just throwing ideas in the air and I got some of you guys telling me that I'm stupid for not keeping an open mind! Do you see the irony?

Friggin RELAX!!! We're supposed to be friends here. You guys can still disagree with me without turning on me like rabid dogs. Some of you made very interesting points and gave specific examples of how strategy can be imployed in speedball while others just seemed intent on flaming the blasphemer... and some did both.

Enough with the insults. I'll edit my original posting if you guys want, but there will be no more name calling or personal attacks directed towards me. I'm serious.

[Eatem Alive]

but there will be no more name calling or personal attacks directed towards me. I'm serious.

or what...you'll take your thread and go home?

how did mango say it...kthxbye

[LudavicoSoldier]

Airball does not suck. Try playing a game of pump only airball (meaning EVERYONE uses a pump). It will be the most fun you have ever had playing paintball.

[ghost flanker]

Airball does not suck. Try playing a game of pump only airball (meaning EVERYONE uses a pump). It will be the most fun you have ever had playing paintball.

This was exactly what I mentioned in a previous post. I'd love to play pump airball, but those kinds of games seem to be pretty difficult to find. Does anyone know of any pump airball games going on in the LA area?

[warbeak2099]

Oh stop with this pretending to be simply posting your own, objective opinion. You made a ridiculous statement that is just plain wrong. You acted like a raving idiot when you said it too. Of course you're gonna get flamed. I hate people who think everyone's opinion should be respected no matter how it's presented. You presented your opinion in a totally ignorant way. After you had been disproved time and again, you refused to admit it and kept on acting like a hysterical lunatic. That's why a lot of us got upset and started flaming you. You make stupid statements and you don't back them up with facts. There are so many examples of tactics in speedball, yet you dismiss all of them. You're wrong, so what do you do? You deny it and make the excuse that you're entitled to your own opinion. Well, speedball lacking strategy is not an opinion, it's a fallacy. Your love of ignorance is what's getting you flamed. If you had presented a lucid, well thought out argument about how to improve speedball, then you would deserve to have your opinion listened to. As it stands, you don't. Please try to read and comprehend all of this before you make yet another "arm flailing", raving lunatic post.

[hitech]

... airball fields are way too small for the types of high performance markers that are so commonly used. There's no room to really move around undetected cuz you're playing in a little box. Make the airball fields BIGGER... maybe with larger bunkers too.

I would also have to agree with this. Current speedball formats leave little room for movement. I know it's fun to duke it out with your opponent, but I like something a little more balanced between shooting and movement...



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[Lohman446]

I would also have to agree with this. Current speedball formats leave little room for movement. I know it's fun to duke it out with your opponent, but I like something a little more balanced between shooting and movement...

this is where I disagree. My team moves a lot - and I would argue that movement requires a lot of strategy. The things that many complain are missing...

[hitech]

this is where I disagree. My team moves a lot - and I would argue that movement requires a lot of strategy. The things that many complain are missing...

I think we would just disagree on what a lot of movement is.

The current speedball formats have a very high emphasis on shooting, were wide open woodsball formats have an emphasis on movement. As an example, how many times in the current small speedball format does a game end with someone hanging the flag without shooting all of the opposing team?

[Lohman446]

I think we would just disagree on what a lot of movement is.

I think you are right...