Should i post anything about MXS?

[craltal]

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Boy, this thread took a turn for the silly.

Silly is not quite the word I would use to describe the tangent this thread took...

[Lee]

Silly is not quite the word I would use to describe the tangent this thread took...

amen. it's pattern with some people.

[ShadowFire]

I do not know or have ever met ANYONE associated with MXS. I do not believe it is over. He will still receive money for MXS events.

Dark Side, as you have said, you stepped up here to help defend a kid butting heads with the big bad TB (and that is a mighty big head to butt against ).

All well and good but where do you stand on MXS? You posted earlier that Pacman is a POS and I wholeheatedly agree with you of course. You also said that supporting MXS will support Pacman. Should we as a community stand up and refuse to allow that influence into the top tier of our sport? I think so.

There was a fairly well known player here in Texas that was recently charged with posession of child pornography. Even though he wasn't producing it, his acts created a demand for it and furthered the exploitation of children. Acts against children, in my mind, are the only thing worse than what Pacman did. What's going to happen when he gets released from prison? I don't know, guess we will wait and see.

But at this point we do know what Pacman did and what he has done "for the sport" and I believe it is part of our responsibility to be sure his actions don't influence the game we love. In short, Pacman is not good for paintball.

[Dark Side]

Dark Side, as you have said, you stepped up here to help defend a kid butting heads with the big bad TB (and that is a mighty big head to butt against ).

All well and good but where do you stand on MXS? You posted earlier that Pacman is a POS and I wholeheatedly agree with you of course. You also said that supporting MXS will support Pacman. Should we as a community stand up and refuse to allow that influence into the top tier of our sport? I think so.

There was a fairly well known player here in Texas that was recently charged with posession of child pornography. Even though he wasn't producing it, his acts created a demand for it and furthered the exploitation of children. Acts against children, in my mind, are the only thing worse than what Pacman did. What's going to happen when he gets released from prison? I don't know, guess we will wait and see.

But at this point we do know what Pacman did and what he has done "for the sport" and I believe it is part of our responsibility to be sure his actions don't influence the game we love. In short, Pacman is not good for paintball.

Where do I stand on MXS? Before this past week or so when this thread was opened, I knew nothing of pacman's past, good or bad, never hearing of him. I have heard of MXS, being that they put on games at Blanding, but beyond that nothing at all.

I believe that patrick should have his genitals torn from his person and fed to him raw.

I believe that dianne should not be allowed to ever set foot on another field.

I believe that MXS should cease to exist and all revenue that has been made by the company should be put into an account solely for the purpose of paying retribution to the women that have been hurt by patrick's misdeeds.

[Coralis]

All I'm going to say on the subject is that my wife and I won't be attending any of their events, I'm not taking the chance .

[Beemer]

I am suprised this isn't locked yet. Mods must take the weekends off.

Umm well no, no we dont. I have had my finger on the trigger since this thread started. I had a Great Fathers Day today with my Dad. Just catching up on this thread now. This is considered an open and self Governing Forum. I have had some PMs and e-mails on this thread. [self governing] I was close to a lock before you made this post. Should I lock it now??? After catching up it seems you and Lawrence CAN converse at some level. Locking a Thread is not always the best answer. When it is it gets it. I am always wrong and suck as a mod or so I have read, so maybe I should have locked it sooner, then again maybe not.

It took Lawarence this long to get out the real issue. That issue is he didnt have ALL the facts on his Compadres and is pissed at himself and now wishes all facts known. So be it spill the Facts. Although I think you could do it with a little more finesse and LESS rudeness to other members. The PMs I got were in reference to this also and I agree. Post your facts and your opinions and how you feel. Stop attacking with BS. Show some respect and you will get it in return. That goes for other members as well.

Lawarence.. I saw Army had to do an edit in the other thread on one of your posts. Remember you still represent AO here being a Mod in the other forum.

Darkside... As far as cookies go, Thank You for Serving. PM me an addy and I will send you a crate of any kind of Cookies you want. That should also help to cover some of TBs shortsidedness with his cookie remark.

Peace Out

[TnDeathInc]

People are so hypersensative (sp?)

Sexual preadators are living nest door, driving your school buses, teaching kids in some places. Dont beleive me, look at your sexual predator registry. Hell there are two in my neighbohood, 45 in my town. OMG i need to move, get a life, heh,

[ViperScenarios]

That's true

With the state and feds keeping track of them that well, there must be reason to do so. Perhaps that goes for ALL of them.

[Dark Side]

Beemer, you have a PM.

[Ninjeff]

Well th thread seems to have gotten ok again.

I feel partly responsible because i found the original info (on another site) and posted it here for discussion regarding its impact on the sport, and as a "heads up" for some southern members should they need it.

Well, anyway, im glad the mods didnt lock it. We are all (somewhat) adults here, and hopefully can act accordingly.

[Dark Side]

If you hadn't someone else would have posted this.

Hopefully a truce of some sort has come to the thread.

[Mike Smith]

If you hadn't someone else would have posted this.

Hopefully a truce of some sort has come to the thread.

I don't know about a truce...

I've already stated everything I can think of about the situation.

[Thordic]

Basically all this thread boils down to is just about every chick in Lawrence's life has been raped so therefore he has a real hard-on for rapists.

We get it, Lawrence. But that makes your view skewed. Theres a reason that a judge would never let you sit on a rape trial.

Pacman's other personal faults are not the issue here. He may be an asshat but that doesn't mean he deserves this.

And throwing out other attacks without proof doesn't help either.

So kindly crawl back under whatever bridge/rock/house you were hiding under.

[Pneumagger]

I think one needs to take a step and look at the situation with controlled circumstances.
Say the situation had been the same circumstance of having a convicted sexual predator in the upper tiers of a scenario company. However lets also this man is a real stand up gentleman forthcoming about his wrongdoings, amiable, and a great all around guy (other than his past).

Ask yourself if he would be treated the same if his character were to be of an outstanding nature. It seems to me that people are overreacting to something they never saw coming and didn't expect about a man whose past they assumed normal. The answer isn't just throwing him out because of his past, and theres no law for him to advertise that his company is run by a sexual preadtor. LOTS of companies employ ex-convicts who committed sexual crimes. If you choose to boycott every company that does so, you're either a hypocrite or you never buy anything.

I'm not defending "pacman" or any other predators here. What he did was pretty disgusting. I am simply bringing up the fact that society as a whole is hypersensitive to just about everything and plays the card as a cop-out to nearly every situation nowadays. If people don't sac up and quit whining about thier inconviences, things are just going to get worse for everyone.

[Zapp Branigan]

Well

Let me start by saying I'm not supporting Pacman, nor do I condone rape or sexual assualt. I'm simply going to point something out.

Lots of people plead "Guilty" to crimes they haven't committed.

Here's how it works.

Someone accuses you of a crime. Police file a report. Send it to the Assistant D.A. who decides if there is enough to prosecute. If so, a warrant is issued.

Defendant is arrested. He goes before a magistrate who sets his bond amount. Bond amounts are pretty much preset for most crimes. If the defendant can post bond, he does so, and is released until his court date.

If the defendant can't pay his bond, or get a bondsman to pay it, he is then taken to county jail.

For a felony, he will sit in county jail for anywhere between 30 and 180 days, while he waits for the grand jury to indict him. The grand jury hears very little evidence. If the defendant can't afford a lawyer, he will get a public defender. The PD NEVER shows up at a grand jury indictment. Only the ADA shows up. the grand jury simply decides if there is enough evidence to try the defendant. If so, they indict him.

PD then goes to the ADA to see if they can plea bargain. PD goes to defendant and offers the deal. As a whole, every one of these deals requires the defendant to plead guilty. Whether they are innocent is not the point. the ADA gets a win, the defendant does less time than what a jury might give him, it's a whole "Bird in the hand is better than 50 years from the jury".

It all depends on the evidence against you. And in the case of rape, a lot of the time it comes down to one persons word against the other. the physical evidence is hard to prove, because whether sex was consensual is the point.

So you got some guy who has been sitting in jail for 4 months, who gets the following pitch. "Plead guilty and I'll give you 8 years, you'll only serve 4. Or go to trial. If you decide to go to trial, it'll be 8 months to a year before we have a court date. And if you lose in court, if the jury doesn't believe you, then the deal is off and we push for a full 50 years. Your choice."

How many people do you think jump at the deal?

I'm not saying this happened in this case. I'm simply saying this happens more often than most people think.