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  • Glickman
    *Insert Witty Phrase*
    • Sep 2003
    • 2673

    #16
    Originally posted by Tao
    I see. So basically someone is trying to smear a person's reputation (along with the company he is associated with) by bringing light on his criminal past.

    So what if he did what he did. His crime was not business orientated which would be the only concern to do or not do business with him. He served his time and thats that. The legal system has had over 1000 years (yes 1K dating back to the Roman empire) to perfect not only punishments, but preventative measures. He has been punished and no doubt served probationary time and sanctions and treatment to prevent him reoffending.

    I would be weary when meeting him, but he has paid for his crimes and as long as he has not continued to be a criminal he deserves a second chance. Besides there is the fact that refusing to do business with this company just because of HIS past hurts many innocents such as his wife.
    the thing is, whether conscous or not, every little thing we do, business-related or not, affects how we are seen and trusted as businessmen. Think of all the times you've been told that a weak handshake can kill an interview. Its only natural for people to believe how people manage their lives to how they manage their business.

    i am not taking any side whatsoever, im just pointing that out.


    the only thing ill have to disagree with is the whole 1000 years to perfect the legal system.

    "67 percent of inmates released from state prisons... committed at least one serious new crime within three years."

    again, i am not saying anything in regards to this specific case, just that the legal system is FAR from effective, let alone perfect.

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    • Tao
      Registered User
      • Jan 2006
      • 834

      #17
      Originally posted by Ninjeff
      Actually, what brought the whole thing to my attention was his disreputable buisness dealings with Viper Productions and some other, very buisness related things.

      Posted by TB-thunderstruck on specopspaintball. TB apparently had some shady buisness dealing with the accused also:

      The first is by Joe 'Jammer' Arcurio. It involves the fact that he bought 15% of MXS, when it was MXS Inc. The previous owner of the 15% had never seen a return on his investement, however due to the money that MXS was making, he felt he could facilitate change. He did, they folded MXS Inc, sold or gave the assets of the company to a new firm called MXS, LLC and defrauded Joe of his interests in the company. He has sued and it is still pending trial. They have drawn it out as long as they can with depositions and 4 different attorneys on their behalf.

      The second is Patrick McKinnon suing Viper and Viper Paintball. Now in 1996 Patrick owned a field called BSG in Houston. Viper introduced him to scenario paintball at Wayne's events and Viper started Viper Paintball with Wayne Dollacks blessing. Patrick was a part owner by investing some radios that his dad had given him into the company. So at each event, he got 50% of the till as Field Owner and and then 33% of the net of what was left. So when Pacman sold the field at the next Viper event he got banned from the field because he threatened to hurt the new FO. He then tried promplty told Viper he couldnt do games at BSG since he was an owner. With the money situation and such, Viper asked Pacman to sell his share of Viper Paintball. Pacman did so and signed agreements that basically said that he and his got to play Viper games for free for life. In 2001 Viper had a house fire that destroyed his records. Patrick knew this, in fact we had a charity game for Viper to help him out. However it appears that after Viper announced he was getting Blanding and Pacman could not stop Blanding from kicking Viper to the curb, he chose to sue him for never buying him out and dared Viper to produce the contract or receipt that he had paid him off.
      Well then that changes things. Too bad for the other guy in the second statement. In order for things to be inforcable by law it must be in writing since the contract between the two was an interest in land. The first thing I would have done is made sure that Pacman was taken off of the land title at the land title office once the contract was signed.

      However this guy isn't apart of MXS anymore, so I wouldn't boycot this company.

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      • Glickman
        *Insert Witty Phrase*
        • Sep 2003
        • 2673

        #18
        Originally posted by Tao
        However this guy isn't apart of MXS anymore, so I wouldn't boycot this company.
        heres the thing. Many other agree, that since his wife is now "running" it, he will be really controlling it from behind the curtain, and reaping in the wealth as he did before.

        personally, I've never had a problem, or heard of a problem with MXS before this though. They are a HUGE part of scenario games though, so i guess its something to think about.

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        • Tao
          Registered User
          • Jan 2006
          • 834

          #19
          Originally posted by Glickman
          the thing is, whether conscous or not, every little thing we do, business-related or not, affects how we are seen and trusted as businessmen. Think of all the times you've been told that a weak handshake can kill an interview. Its only natural for people to believe how people manage their lives to how they manage their business.

          i am not taking any side whatsoever, im just pointing that out.


          the only thing ill have to disagree with is the whole 1000 years to perfect the legal system.

          "67 percent of inmates released from state prisons... committed at least one serious new crime within three years."

          again, i am not saying anything in regards to this specific case, just that the legal system is FAR from effective, let alone perfect.
          Ah yes I forgot this was the American justice system. I don't mean to bash, but the US system is crazy. Encarceration with little effort at rehabilitation doesn't do anything. The US really could look at adopting either Canadian or European systems. At the very least it should save the country some money by not needing to deal with so many repeat offenders.

          Anyway that was a bit off topic. My first statement is moot anyway since someone just said he has been upto no good since then.

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          • Tao
            Registered User
            • Jan 2006
            • 834

            #20
            Originally posted by Glickman
            heres the thing. Many other agree, that since his wife is now "running" it, he will be really controlling it from behind the curtain, and reaping in the wealth as he did before.

            personally, I've never had a problem, or heard of a problem with MXS before this though. They are a HUGE part of scenario games though, so i guess its something to think about.
            Yeah I realize he will still have influence. However his wife married him and is still married to him and if she does give her power in the company to himto use, I would give her a chance as long as she isn't a criminal or doing anything shifty. I admit it is a moot point what I would do since my dealings with MXS will probably be minimal anyway.

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            • wetwrks
              Splatting since '85

              • Jun 2007
              • 1828

              #21
              Um, i don't know about wherever he is but typically anyone who is found guilty of something like this has to register as a sex offender and as a result cannot be involved with a business dealing with minors.

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              • Ninjeff
                it only takes one.
                • Jan 2007
                • 1205

                #22
                And i know its been reported that he never registered at alot of the scenario game locations they put on.

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                • AirAssault
                  Those aren't pillows!!!!

                  • Apr 2003
                  • 1566

                  #23
                  Of course being charged and convicted does not make a person 100% guilty. Not seeing any of the defense info or seeing court transcripts, we have no way of knowing. Also the man has done his time. No second chances in the USA anymore?
                  Due to the objections of a certain Canadian, this space is now for rent.

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                  • MANN
                    I am in TN. GO VOLS.
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 4266

                    #24
                    Originally posted by AirAssault
                    Of course being charged and convicted does not make a person 100% guilty. Not seeing any of the defense info or seeing court transcripts, we have no way of knowing. Also the man has done his time. No second chances in the USA anymore?
                    No second chances to someone who sexualy abuses someone. They are a sick (bleep), and deserve to die.

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                    • Chrishew09
                      Psalm 119:9
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 657

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MANN
                      No second chances to someone who sexualy abuses someone. They are a sick (bleep), and deserve to die.
                      Only God can judge, in God's eyes everyone is given many chances.

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                      • punkncat
                        One foot less
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 5841

                        #26
                        Its a shame that the paintball world is turning to this. I imagine some individual got their feelings hurt and decided to air some dirty laundry. I have to agree with pneumagger, in that I really don't see this changing anything....

                        Fellow made a mistake and apparently has served time for it. I have attended several MXS games and will continue to do so in spite of this "cowardly act" pointing out his stained past.
                        It really doesn't have any impact at all on his ability to put on one hell of a scenario game.

                        One thing that sucks about the net. Public information is easy to find and even easier to anon. post....Good luck to MXS.

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                        • AirAssault
                          Those aren't pillows!!!!

                          • Apr 2003
                          • 1566

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MANN
                          No second chances to someone who sexualy abuses someone. They are a sick (bleep), and deserve to die.
                          Again, we DO NOT know the entire story. Being convicted of a crime does not mean you are 100% guilty of that crime. We don't know the entire story here. Im not defending him, simply saying how about we don't hang the guy without knowing ALL the facts. Hey, don't go play in the games if you don't want but find out ALL the facts.
                          Due to the objections of a certain Canadian, this space is now for rent.

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                          • punkncat
                            One foot less
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 5841

                            #28
                            For what used to be known as a friendly online community, there sure are a good deal of AO'ers who are just ready to jump on and throw someone on the cross w/o knowing all the facts.

                            As I have been seeing posted around here lately...

                            "There are two sides to every story"

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                            • mostpeople
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1680

                              #29
                              Originally posted by AirAssault
                              Of course being charged and convicted does not make a person 100% guilty. Not seeing any of the defense info or seeing court transcripts, we have no way of knowing. Also the man has done his time. No second chances in the USA anymore?

                              there is no defense info

                              he plead guilty

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                              • mostpeople
                                Registered User
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 1680

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mostpeople
                                there is no defense info

                                he plead guilty


                                Heres the thing, hes a known criminal, he plead guilty afterall. And there is of course no question that it is him. So the question is, do you think that because he broke the law and served time for rape, that he should not be allowed to have a life after jail?

                                On the one hand, no he shouldnt hes an evil bastard and deserves to go back to jail for what he did because once a criminal always a criminal.

                                The flip side hes payed his debt maybe that changed him, and we shouldnt worry about it.

                                Im in the middle currently on this one...

                                BUT, I've heard other things that MXS has done which are illegal which are totally unrelated to this (other than the whole him being a criminal part). I will NOT talk about it because I dont know enough about it.

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