Should i post anything about MXS?

[ShadowFire]

That being said, ive read the court document, and i have one word for you

"drum stick"


I cant believe he only served 8 years. And i think it DOES have an impact on the current court cases. I think this prior says a lot about a persons mental capacity.

I think what says more about him is the fact that he actually petitioned the court to have those drum sticks returned to him along with the sheets and blanket that were on the bed when the cops came. Trophys?

[Ninjeff]

No, the argument is still valid. You're talking about selectively applying the law, which is a violation of civil rights. It's the same coin that requires a teacher who sleeps with her 17 year old student to register as a sex offender. There is no grey here. He did his time and as long as he follows the requirements the court placed on him there's nothing that can or should be done.

As long as you don't live within the restricted areas a serial rapist could move in right next door to you and you can't do anything legally about it.

And there should be grey area. THERE SHOULD BE. A teacher who sleeps with her 17 year old student, with his consent, or hers, i suppose, should be held WAY differently than someone who forces themselves, violently, upon another using tools of restraint and abuse.
Im not saying that according to law the former hasnt done something illegal, i AM stating that the said teacher should be held in a much different regard than this guy. Its the same (loosley) as the difference between manslaughter, murder 1 and 2 and so on.

[craltal]

And there should be grey area. THERE SHOULD BE. A teacher who sleeps with her 17 year old student, with his consent, or hers, i suppose, should be held WAY differently than someone who forces themselves, violently, upon another using tools of restraint and abuse.
Im not saying that according to law the former hasnt done something illegal, i AM stating that the said teacher should be held in a much different regard than this guy. Its the same (loosley) as the difference between manslaughter, murder 1 and 2 and so on.

That's where sentencing comes in, but not the sex offender registry. As long as both follow the law after their sentence and comply with the registry, they both should be able to try to live as normal a life as possible.

You seem to be getting riled up because you find the details of the crime heinous. You need to see beyond that at the bigger picture. He hasn't done anything illegal in the 22 years since this crime (albeit from the descriptions posted he may act less than gentlemanly, but if that was a crime most of us would be guilty from time to time.)

[Ninjeff]

No, i see what your saying.

really i do. I suppose it just comes down to the "severity" of the act. Thats what gets me.

[Lawrence TB Wright]

He hasn't done anything that he has been caught at or that others will prosecute for. That does not make him innocent by any means.

However, I am sure that some of you are very liberal when it comes to forgiveness and that's ok. However as much as you want to forgive others do not. If you can have your opinion then they can have theirs.

And for the record there is more to paying a debt then sitting in a 5x7 room with a bed and toilet, unless you want to consider time out a way to pay debts.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

I am surprised I am about to say this, but...he has already payed his debt to society. Any such actions by outside sources (i.e. concerned citizen) is duly wrong.

However, that is also part of the punishment- living with a tarnished name forever regardless prison completion.

[warpig13]

T-Rev (Texas Revolution) is a Viper production.

MXS does the Texas Throwdown but that's only been around about 4 years I think.

thats what i meant, my apologises.

And as for MANN, my cousin has been raped.
And even though I am completely against God, I have made my share of mistakes.
I have no real ill will outside the fact that i know he is doing his time.

[SR_matt]

ok for all of those who have said they will never play mxs and think he is a terrible terrible person. ok ya what he did in teh past was bad but literally until 5 mins ago when i read the stuff i had nothing against pacman. he is a very nice guy, doesnt seem shady in the least (and i can pick out shady people pretty quickly). he has kept out of trouble since these charges and frankly i do not hold anything against him. the man made bad choices and bad actions in his past but he hasnt again so why does everyone feel after years and years that he is still a horrible person.

if you want to start digging into peoples pasts why dont we just make people wear scarlet letters again. you do a crime, you get punished, it shows up on background checks. you do not need to publish everyones bad actions, in a town near where i live they have a police report section listing peoples names and their charges every week and frankly all that accomplishes in public humiliation which is not a good way to punish and doesnt help the person at all.

for some "player" to go that far to put info into the hands of the sponsors they probably have an interest in hurting MXS's business

i have no problem with pacman and until i see different actions from him from what i have seen i will not change my outlook, im going to keep this in the back of my head but it will not harm my views yet.


"let he who is with out sin cast the first stone"
-matt

[Ninjeff]

Very forgiving group we have here on AO.

I could think of worse things to be.

[nmib]

I love the individuals here saying "he was young, made a mistake and has paid his dues". You honestly have no idea how a criminal mind works and why the crime is committed. Then to toss the mind of a sex offender in the mix makes it even more confusing. There is a reason why we have them register as sex offenders and why this information is made public. They are highly acceptable to repeat offenses. And seriously you think the prision social programs helped him in 1985? *scoff*

If you are a RSO you can not work with kids in any means, this includes paintball. Not only has he broken the law, he has been breaking it. Who knows what other state laws have been broken, like in California if your a RSO and in the state for more than three days you must contact the local police dept. Im glad to see that important information on a rapist is coming to light, its a shame its 20 years later.

On a side note, Ive met Pacman in Texas. I thought of him as an USDA Grade A prick.

[craltal]

I love the individuals here saying "he was young, made a mistake and has paid his dues". You honestly have no idea how a criminal mind works and why the crime is committed. Then to toss the mind of a sex offender in the mix makes it even more confusing. There is a reason why we have them register as sex offenders and why this information is made public. They are highly acceptable to repeat offenses. And seriously you think the prision social programs helped him in 1985? *scoff*

If you are a RSO you can not work with kids in any means, this includes paintball. Not only has he broken the law, he has been breaking it. Who knows what other state laws have been broken, like in California if your a RSO and in the state for more than three days you must contact the local police dept. Im glad to see that important information on a rapist is coming to light, its a shame its 20 years later.

On a side note, Ive met Pacman in Texas. I thought of him as an USDA Grade A prick.

And I suppose you are an expert psychiatrist who has analyzed this individual and can give us an unbiased clinical opinion on his rehabilitation? Has he done anything close to repeating?

Like everything else, the RSO laws are a hodge podge and vary from state to state not to mention have only been a recent addition to the state law books across the country, in fact they are still being changed.

[nmib]

And I suppose you are an expert psychiatrist who has analyzed this individual and can give us an unbiased clinical opinion on his rehabilitation?

I am not. But being apart of the law enforcement community and working currently on a criminal justice degree I tend to think I might know a tidbit more than the normal user here when it comes to criminals. What do you do for a living? Public Defendant?

The fact of the matter is he is a convicted rapist of a minor. A RSO and has ran a company that caters to minors. There is nothing wrong with policing our own, saying your not welcome. Its a personal opinion that 8 years was to short and he should have fulfilled the complete 20. Think of the possible psychological damage that could have been done to the victim. For the rest of her/his life.

Its clear he made the decision and now he has to live with the consequences of being a rapist. These are the reprocustions of his action for the rest of his life. If you dont like the time dont do the crime.

[ShadowFire]

Ok, lets not get this too out of hand or it will lose credibility.

I do not know the age of the victim but since the papers state she was employed as a stripper I would have to assume she was of legal age in Oklahoma. So to call him a rapist is accurate, child molester not.

As for the registration, that is a legal flaw in the Texas judicial system (as far as I'm concerned). Texas law states that if you were convicted of a crime after 1970 then you must register. OK, his was 1985 what's the problem. Well, there's more that basically says if you finished your sentence (incarceration and probation) between Sept 1 1995 and Aug 31 1997 then you must register for 10 years, if you finish on or after Sept 1 1997 you must register for life. He was released from probation after only 9 months. So April of 1995 is when he finished his sentence.

So he has not broken Texas law by not registering. This was explained to me by someone in the Harris County sex offender task force. Whether or not he has broken other state laws I can not be sure of.

[craltal]

I am not. But being apart of the law enforcement community and working currently on a criminal justice degree I tend to think I might know a tidbit more than the normal user here when it comes to criminals. What do you do for a living? Public Defendant?

The fact of the matter is he is a convicted rapist of a minor. A RSO and has ran a company that caters to minors. There is nothing wrong with policing our own, saying your not welcome. Its a personal opinion that 8 years was to short and he should have fulfilled the complete 20. Think of the possible psychological damage that could have been done to the victim. For the rest of her/his life.

Its clear he made the decision and now he has to live with the consequences of being a rapist. These are the reprocustions of his action for the rest of his life. If you dont like the time dont do the crime.

Maybe I'd listen to you if you actually read the complaint. There is NOWHERE that states the victim was a minor. None of the 4 counts mention it. As for your background, it's obviously irrevelant since you jump to conclusions and make decisions based on partial information or worse yet, hearsay.

Unless you are in the judicial branch, your opinion on whether the punishment fit the crime is also just opinion and holds no weight when you don't even know the facts or bother to find them.

[Mike Smith]

The sycophants that are defending Patrick's rape amaze me.

Men do not rape women.

Sick perverts that impersonate men rape women. There are over 3 billion women on this planet. If you cannot convince one to go to bed with you and think you must resort to raping a woman, then do our society a favor. Kill yourself.