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  • Mike Smith
    Registered User
    • Aug 2002
    • 369

    #31
    Originally posted by Chrishew09
    Only God can judge, in God's eyes everyone is given many chances.
    Wrong.

    We make multiple "judgments" each and every day. We decide to spend our money at the Shell station or the Valero station. We make a judgment on which movie gets our money and which one doesn't. We choose which store we shop at. We make those types of decisions each and every day.

    I chose {a while back} not to give MXS or MXS, LLC any more of my money. Ever.

    Is that a ditch behind me?

    I'm old... I'm slow...
    And I can't see very well...
    Is this gun I borrowed any good?

    {heh heh heh}

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    • AirAssault
      Those aren't pillows!!!!

      • Apr 2003
      • 1566

      #32
      Originally posted by mostpeople
      there is no defense info

      he plead guilty

      But there was an appeal, 2 I think. So there has to be.
      Due to the objections of a certain Canadian, this space is now for rent.

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      • Thordic
        AFTICA
        • May 2001
        • 5986

        #33
        And people wonder why criminals have such a high repeat offender percentage.

        Maybe its because after they serve their time everyone still treats them like criminals?

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        • craltal
          MCB, baby...
          • Oct 2003
          • 1452

          #34
          Originally posted by Thordic
          And people wonder why criminals have such a high repeat offender percentage.

          Maybe its because after they serve their time everyone still treats them like criminals?

          Amen.

          Whether or not we find what he did deplorable, he went through our justice system and has tried to put his life back together. The slant I'm getting from this is that because he is a "sex offender" he needs to be hiding destitute somewhere. alienated from the rest of society?

          We also don't know the circumstances behind this. I am in no way justifying hos criminal behavior, and I'm also not saying that our justice system will cure all offenders, but they guy seems to have turned his life around and as long as he keeps on the straight and narrow, I don't see any problem with him trying to make a living and supporting his family.

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          • blake20
            Team Green Devils
            • Mar 2007
            • 215

            #35
            Old man on field!!

            I'm not really opposed to anyone straightening out their life and going back to work. 2 things though. 1) I do wonder about having someone in charge of an event that caters to minors (both boys and girls) or even being in contact with children. I do not know if he is at the games at all but if my son or daughter were there that would cause me concern, especially if they were not with me. I am an old guy and I probably look at things like this with a different veiw as I would have when I was younger or many of you younger members. Just think if it was your child or your sister, or brother, would you take that chance with them??? Not me... 2) As for the money gained from all of us at the games, whose to say that the money that we are spending is not used to keep this man out of jail or even out of the court system. Unfortunatly money runs our criminal justice system examples OJ, MJ. Once again I'm not saying that the guy is a bad guy, but I do know that he has commited a type of crime that out system does not rehabilitate for. One thing MXS not for me, or my children.

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            • Chrishew09
              Psalm 119:9
              • Oct 2005
              • 657

              #36
              Originally posted by Mike Smith
              Wrong.

              We make multiple "judgments" each and every day. We decide to spend our money at the Shell station or the Valero station. We make a judgment on which movie gets our money and which one doesn't. We choose which store we shop at. We make those types of decisions each and every day.

              I chose {a while back} not to give MXS or MXS, LLC any more of my money. Ever.
              What you are describing is choices, what what mentioned earlier was a judgment passed on another person.

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              • craltal
                MCB, baby...
                • Oct 2003
                • 1452

                #37
                He spent 8 years in prison. it's not like he tried to buy his way out.

                The only thing I can see wrong is the registering issue, but there is no nation wide standard practice so

                Also having read the threads over at spec ops and the response from "mother" it's quite a fishy set of circumstances that this information hits the web just as a bunch of people are suing MXS because they were banned from some scenario game.

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                • RvB Caboose
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 55

                  #38
                  Well since this thread has grown I might as well weigh in with my thoughts.

                  First off, I've never been to a scenario game and have never heard of MXS. Sending anonymous letters and posting such personal information is just plain wrong. Especially when the crime took place back in 1985. I know criminal records are in the public domain, but come on, whatever happened to common courtesy?

                  Patrick McKinnon has done nothing that would lead us to believe that he has committed any crimes since his release from prison. If anything, his creation of MXS and its nation-wide success shows that he has an interest in contributing to society, rather than being a criminal. Now I understand that there are bad apples- quite a few in the U.S., who keep going in and out of prison, but McKinnon's record since his release is pristine.

                  I also disagree that he should not be allowed to work with MXS because children attend their scenario games. Since when is rape synonymous with pedophilia? While they are not mutually exclusive we should see things the way they are, not they way they could be.

                  My sympathies go out to MXS for the loss of their founder.

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                  • wimag
                    BEZERKERS
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 1334

                    #39
                    all very easy to defend him on the internet for those who do... but how many would feel comfortable if he moved next door to your family ? Would you welcome him with no reservation or suspicion ?

                    He plead guilty, the reactions he will receive for the rest of his life will pretty much be based on that. Pretty simple.
                    BEZERKERS
                    ALL MAG SHOOTING TEAM

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                    • craltal
                      MCB, baby...
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1452

                      #40
                      Originally posted by wimag
                      all very easy to defend him on the internet for those who do... but how many would feel comfortable if he moved next door to your family ? Would you welcome him with no reservation or suspicion ?

                      He plead guilty, the reactions he will receive for the rest of his life will pretty much be based on that. Pretty simple.
                      That's not the point. He's not moving in next to me, he's trying to run a business. There's a HUGE difference between the two.

                      He pled guilty and served his time. He's kept his nose clean since he got out. Nowhere in that document does it state that there was a minor involved so all of the "child" worries are just people jumping to conclusions.

                      I'm not defending his original actions, but I'm trying to stem the lynching he's receiving over something that's in his past that only seems to be being brought up to try to smear him due to a non-related civil lawsuit.
                      Last edited by craltal; 06-14-2007, 12:01 PM.

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                      • cyrus-the-virus
                        http://www.thepbforum.com/
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1259

                        #41
                        Originally posted by wimag
                        all very easy to defend him on the internet for those who do... but how many would feel comfortable if he moved next door to your family ? Would you welcome him with no reservation or suspicion ?

                        He plead guilty, the reactions he will receive for the rest of his life will pretty much be based on that. Pretty simple.
                        he did his time and he's been clean since he got out. I wouldn't care if he moved in next door. Actually I think it would be pretty cool because I could maybe actually go to a big scenario.

                        Now if he had been in and out of prison for the same offences THEN I would have a problem with it.

                        BTW How did the topic of pedophilia come up? just because he has a sexually based offence against an adult does not automaticly mean he's going to start going after children....

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                        • TheTramp
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 4019

                          #42
                          Originally posted by RvB Caboose
                          Since when is rape synonymous with pedophilia?
                          I agree. I don't understand why are people insinuating that he would have an unhealthy/illegal interest in children?
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                          • mostpeople
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 1680

                            #43
                            Originally posted by cyrus-the-virus
                            he did his time and he's been clean since he got out. I wouldn't care if he moved in next door. Actually I think it would be pretty cool because I could maybe actually go to a big scenario.

                            Now if he had been in and out of prison for the same offences THEN I would have a problem with it.

                            BTW How did the topic of pedophilia come up? just because he has a sexually based offence against an adult does not automaticly mean he's going to start going after children....

                            I wouldnt trust him around my children

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                            • craltal
                              MCB, baby...
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1452

                              #44
                              Originally posted by mostpeople
                              I wouldnt trust him around my children
                              *sigh* best to let this die before it turns into a political/ civil rights argument

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                              • Mike Smith
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 369

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Chrishew09
                                What you are describing is choices, what what mentioned earlier was a judgment passed on another person.
                                What I described was judgments on who received my money. I would not use my property {money} to help sustain a criminal, especially someone guilty of rape.

                                Is that a ditch behind me?

                                I'm old... I'm slow...
                                And I can't see very well...
                                Is this gun I borrowed any good?

                                {heh heh heh}

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