Should i post anything about MXS?

[Chrishew09]

How many of you guys have talked to Pacman before. An honest conversation at a dinner battle during his events?


He did wrong stuff, he DID HIS TIME, and thats that. Sure it looks bad on his record, but there is nothing else to be done. Face it, we all make mistakes and when we do we all want a 2nd chance, he is a nce guy and until you really know all the facts, no one can pass judgement. According to popular belief, some crazy Israeli who roamed the desert said "He without sin may cast the first stone."


So cast away people, becasue someone else is going to cast one right to your nuts and you wont like it at all.

Amen

[SR_matt]

The sycophants that are defending Patrick's rape amaze me.

Men do not rape women.

Sick perverts that impersonate men rape women. There are over 3 billion women on this planet. If you cannot convince one to go to bed with you and think you must resort to raping a woman, then do our society a favor. Kill yourself.

we are not defending his actions we are defending him as a person we know and a person we respect. i did not read through re reports and do not really want to, not necessarily of because who they are about but because i really am not in the mood to read a graphic account of sexual abuses. i do not know if the account talks about any substances he could have been on but he could have been which could have impaired his judgment (not saying that as an excuse but it could be a reason)

its easy to hate a man for what he might done if you do not know him but when you are part of a community with him and know him as a person it is not black and white for us to judge.

-matt

[Thordic]

But Tony, she was a ho-ah.

[Pneumagger]

I'll take "The Rapists" for $200.

[Lawrence TB Wright]

You really should come to the worldoftb.com and read the stuff that's there and not just the crap that I post, but the links that I put to it. That's the reality, the rest by anyone including me is just spin one way or the other. But to say that you aren't going to read it and you vocalizing your point is what gets on my nerves. You read it all (not just the paperwork regarding a convicted violent felon) but the rest of it and you say you know what, I don't care I am still going to support him and I am still going to give him another chance, then you will not hear me complain. I support everyone's right to a educated opinion, even if they don't agree with me. I also know that paintball players are some of the most fickle people out there, everyone wants to blame the industry for the problems, but the industry mirrors the players.

So don't make an arse of yourself but coming on here with your forgive and forget sermons when you haven't read anything and you don't know the man the way that I do. And if you don't know who I am, just ask, I will be glad to tell you since you certainly won't read up on me either.

[warpig13]

I'll take "The Rapists" for $200.

The day is mine!

[Lawrence TB Wright]

The day is mine!

Dude you are like 16! Never mind, puts things in a whole new perspective.

[craltal]

You really should come to the worldoftb.com and read the stuff that's there and not just the crap that I post, but the links that I put to it. That's the reality, the rest by anyone including me is just spin one way or the other. But to say that you aren't going to read it and you vocalizing your point is what gets on my nerves. You read it all (not just the paperwork regarding a convicted violent felon) but the rest of it and you say you know what, I don't care I am still going to support him and I am still going to give him another chance, then you will not hear me complain. I support everyone's right to a educated opinion, even if they don't agree with me. I also know that paintball players are some of the most fickle people out there, everyone wants to blame the industry for the problems, but the industry mirrors the players.

So don't make an arse of yourself but coming on here with your forgive and forget sermons when you haven't read anything and you don't know the man the way that I do. And if you don't know who I am, just ask, I will be glad to tell you since you certainly won't read up on me either.

I, for one, have read it. i am in no way defending his crime, but feel that airing it at this time was an unscrupulous move by someone. I also believe that he has a right to a second chance, which he appears to be doing. Personality issues aside, show me where he has done something illegal since '85. That was 22 years ago.

The paintball industry does try to cater to the players, and it seems that the target demographic is the "agg" kid or obnoxious professional wannabe. What we are experiencing is just the natural growing pains of the indusrty moving from the woods onto the airball field.

[blake20]

I don't know if you guys misunderstood what I had said about children. I read that it was an of age adult that he raped. I was not saying that he molested a child and through all the posts I don't think that I saw that anyone said that he did. All I was trying to get through is say I'm at a game with my daughter 16 years old and I get shot out and my daughter is in with this guy. I would not feel comfortable. I know the people that We play with very well. We watch each others children as if they were our own. Our kids range from age 9- 23. So when I say children, I meant my own, but that girl was someones daughter. I also agree with the point about not being rehabilitated. If you read all the Studies out there you will find out that this type of persons brain does not work like everyone elses. Psych 101. I don't know the guy, never met him and don't plan to.

[craltal]

I don't know if you guys misunderstood what I had said about children. I read that it was an of age adult that he raped. I was not saying that he molested a child and through all the posts I don't think that I saw that anyone said that he did. All I was trying to get through is say I'm at a game with my daughter 16 years old and I get shot out and my daughter is in with this guy. I would not feel comfortable. I know the people that We play with very well. We watch each others children as if they were our own. Our kids range from age 9- 23. So when I say children, I meant my own, but that girl was someones daughter. I also agree with the point about not being rehabilitated. If you read all the Studies out there you will find out that this type of persons brain does not work like everyone elses. Psych 101. I don't know the guy, never met him and don't plan to.

At a big scenario game, you have absolutely no idea who's around you or your kids no matter where it is. Imagine the possibilities at something like a D-Day when there are potentially thousands of people you have never met before. Personally, I'd be less concerned about the event promoter due to his high profile than I would some random person. I'm trying to scare anyone, just pointing out the holes in the theory.

I agree that the mental processes involved in doing something like that are not normal. Again, I'm not defending his actions, nor do I know anything about the situation that wasn't in the official records but it was the 80's and those of us who remember the 80's knows the excesses that were used. Nobody can say if he's been rehabilitated or not without examining him. Study result just show the results from a small group of people. There are always anomalies.

[blake20]

I know exactly what you are saying and I agree to an extent. My problems are with this type of person benifiting from the money from the game and potentially being a player. I'm not trying to say that everyone playing are good guys. We all know that they are not. But just that knowing that person is playing paintball with my kids or my friends kids really scares the H*** out of me. All I'm saying is that I'm not wanting to take that chance. Once again I'm talking from the father side of the fence!!

[david ciarcia]

how many young people look up to the promotor as a hero ? how easy it would b= to take adavantage of a young lady or guy . will it get reported ? 27 percent of rapists commit another rape ---- a vast majority of rape goes unreported due to embrassment --- imagaine a young lady gets raped at a game will she tell her parents due to the embrasssment or the fear that she will lose paintball as something to do ---

a the first shather game he was treated like a movie star big attraction for the young people we have around paintball

i believe in second chances but i also belive that some crimes will limit your chance in the future --- rape is one of those -- as many states dont allow you to work around young people after this --- i think we all need to take note

how do you even know if the person who presented all this , isnt another vistim of his -- the lawsuits that you all talk about have been going on for a while and suddenly this?


my personal feeling , is mxs gets no money of mine ever -- its the best statement i can make
i dont want to take a team to his event and explain to the parents of kids that where entrusted to be -- the leader of the event is a rapist

[craltal]

how many young people look up to the promotor as a hero ? how easy it would b= to take adavantage of a young lady or guy . will it get reported ? 27 percent of rapists commit another rape ---- a vast majority of rape goes unreported due to embrassment --- imagaine a young lady gets raped at a game will she tell her parents due to the embrasssment or the fear that she will lose paintball as something to do ---

a the first shather game he was treated like a movie star big attraction for the young people we have around paintball

i believe in second chances but i also belive that some crimes will limit your chance in the future --- rape is one of those -- as many states dont allow you to work around young people after this --- i think we all need to take note

how do you even know if the person who presented all this , isnt another vistim of his -- the lawsuits that you all talk about have been going on for a while and suddenly this?


my personal feeling , is mxs gets no money of mine ever -- its the best statement i can make
i dont want to take a team to his event and explain to the parents of kids that where entrusted to be -- the leader of the event is a rapist

by your numbers, there's only a 27% chance he'd do anything like that again.

I highly doubt the person who spread this was a victim of an assault. Why go to this trouble when filing a police report would put him back in jail? This smacks of a vendetta or attempt to smear his name for some nefarious reason completely unrelated.

[Lee]

the crime was disgusting. should have done at least the 20 years.

but, posting this up on various forums is unscrupulous at best. it is glaringly obvious that this is being done for someones personal gain.

if the woman that was raped ever saw these threads, wouldn't she feel like a victim all over again?

[Ninjeff]

Viper Games had, (has?) no part in any of this.

The only reason i posted it is because it seems to be an important issue. A very large scenario promoter is involved, and it seems to be an important thing, for me at least, to know this guy did this stuff.