XMOD BETA Testers ONLY (Questions/Comments)

[BigEvil]

Definately include some pics of the plunger/sear combo maybe with a ruler or caliper showing the proper lenght.

Also, same thing with the trigger rod.


Testing at different input pressures is a good idea. I want to also see if having the noid plunger set longer has any benafits are lower input psi.

Im trying like hell to get this centerflag adjustable rebuilt, but of course, there is ONE oring that is murder, and the tool I made to get it out broke. I may just go for the $35 and send it to Centerflag.

[zigss]

beta test

is there anyway to put ".wav" files on here? i have the audio without air for 15, 20 ,25, 30 bps. I also have 15, 20, 25 bps with 850 psi. All test done i full auto. Air pressure definitely plays a major role.

Zigss

[Rudz]

niod

my pluger moves fine..and the niod was tight, no play at all..so im guessin tuna did it right..and like i said this emag was just built abt a yr ago..so i have to find the source of my drag..im aiming at the tank..its going thru air like no 2morrow..that might have something to do with it..

[mstrdbz]

Got a chance to take my x out this weekend and run the software. Here's my settings for the day:

dwell 15
rof 10
fix 45
semi
ace on/delay 2

I ran a halo b w/victory & a speed wheel
MacDev 68/45 @ 950

I intended to run against my friends dynasty shocker, but when we got to the field the local "pro" teams were alredy there using the open players for cannon fodder, not ideal for trying new software. So I ended up playing with rec players who didn't fell like getting hosed, thus the low rof.

Gun performed excellently at those settings. It seemed to me that with xmod the HES picks up on trigger pulls a bit quicker than 3.2. Went to the chrony to dial in, put a quick string over it, little numbers said "10", which matched the cap settings . Put 500 through it at the field, and another 500 when I got home at higher rof and other modes. Broke it down that night for cleaning, and didn't notice any unusual wear,on the bolt and sear, or on the 'noid, probably didn't push hard enough.

At 950psi in psp at 20bps, started missing a few here and there, but I think it was more of loader/ace not set up well enough than actual software problems. Shot smooth streams with the ramping, with minimal kick (much less than rt reactive bounce).

Looks to me like it works pretty good for the slower pace games too, thanks Lorne

[BigEvil]

Got a chance to take my x out this weekend and run the software. Here's my settings for the day:

dwell 15
rof 10
fix 45
semi
ace on/delay 2

Probably dont need the ACE delay on 2. 0 is fine with a Halo

[LorneCash]

Probably dont need the ACE delay on 2. 0 is fine with a Halo

Delay is kind of a personal preference thing. It allows the user to make their ACE more sensative so that no ball is ever missed. It stemmed from a problem I personally had when using my ACE with AGD 3.2. I would turn my ACE on and then shooting a string and all of a sudden it wouldn't shoot until I turned my ACE off. I figured that the ACE was set properly but once in a while a ball wasn't being detected for some reason. I didn't want to make my ACE sense the ball further up because it was set correctly for most balls and that could introduce more of a possability for the gun to chop. I figured if I could increase the sensing distance but then wait a few milliseconds it would solve the problem. Hence Delay was born. One other feature that stemmed from this was the ACE Quick Toggle (holding the bottom button for 1sec). This way I could quickly toggle the ACE without ever entering the menus if for some reason I was still having that problem.

My personal recommendation is to adjust your ACE slightly more sensative than you need it and then to set the Delay to correct that. The formula for calculating that is in the manual for the mathematically inclined otherwise you can just do it by trial and error. Personally I would shoot for a Delay of 3.

[mstrdbz]

Probably dont need the ACE delay on 2. 0 is fine with a Halo

I know, I just didn't think to change it before I started playing, and it wasn't until I got home that I realized it still had the delay at 2. :)

[BigEvil]

Actually, the delay can be used for a few different reasons. Mainly, to compensate for different loaders. Non-force fed loaders can have horrible lag-time between shots.

The beauty of teh AGD ACE is that it has a sensativity adjuster, which i think 99% of other so called "Superior" eye systems dont have. The whole point of an ACE system is obviously to have the gun fire only when a ball is properly loaded. Now with the addition of the TRG ACE check function, it is super easy to properly adjust the stupid thing. I always set it so that a ball will trigger the ACE about 1/16 from the bottom of the breech. Even trying an Eggy with the Delay on 0 the gun didnt miss a beat.

I bet you had paint pushing slightly past the ball detent. Ive seen that happen once or twice with worn detents and improperly set up Warp breeches.

[LorneCash]

I bet you had paint pushing slightly past the ball detent. Ive seen that happen once or twice with worn detents and improperly set up Warp breeches.

I know it wasn't the detent, it was brand new, but what so you mean "improperly set up"

[BigEvil]

I know it wasn't the detent, it was brand new, but what so you mean "improperly set up"

Sometimes you have to add or subtract orings to make sure the ball detent is in just right. If the balls are pushing past it, then its either worn or not in far enough. When the Halo's first hit the scene some guns were notorious for having them push paint right past the detents. The Warps can be a pain for this. Especially in winter when the paint runs a little small from the cold.

[ABTOCMEPTb]

Lots of people run their tests on SEMI. But in my opinion emag is boring on semi now with this new software. I mean emag was semi to begin with.

Does anybody had a chance to mess with FULL AUTO or other mods? What settings would you recomend to use (ROF/FIX)

[BigEvil]

Lots of people run their tests on SEMI. But in my opinion emag is boring on semi now with this new software. I mean emag was semi to begin with.

Does anybody had a chance to mess with FULL AUTO or other mods? What settings would you recomend to use (ROF/FIX)

Experiement.

I have been playing with NXL pretty much every game. Set your ROF to 17, and your FIX to like 5. Shoot it and see if it bounces. If it does, up the fix until it doesnt. Keep experimenting with the ROF until you get to a point where it doesnt work reliably. 15-17 has been working perfect for me. 18-20 is iffy, until I realized my fixed output tank is only outputting 750 psi. 850psi and im getting 20 bps.

[ABTOCMEPTb]

I dont go that high in my full auto. I set it on 12bps which is more than AK47 can shoot (600 round a minute).

[Beemer]

850psi and im getting 20 bps.

Can you verify that? I know you need minimum 1200psi to get to 26

[BigEvil]

Can you verify that? I know you need minimum 1200psi to get to 26

THere is a big difference between 26 and 20 so of course you would need a very high input pressure.

I think Rudz has a thread in PB talk with a video of his gun shooting 10bps. Somewhere in that thread I put up a small clip of Sean33's gun on full auto shooting 20. Someone did a sound analysis and confirmed it was shooting 20.

THe problem with having to run a gun at 1200 psi is that once the tank drops below that pressure your toast. WIth one of these guns on 26, the second your input drops your going to start missing shots and creating a lot of soup in the barrel. Im finding that I like to play with the gun on NXL or MIL and the rof at 17. If im with some hardcore opponenets who are really shooting hard, I will move it up to 20, which is more than fast enough.