A Defense of Marriage/Gay Rights Amendment

[logamus]

well im quite certain the black community doesnt want their plight compaired or even mentioned in the same breath as the gays. and at this point in time the are not the same. my question has always been should we wait for the plight of the gays to reach that level before we act? the underlying problem with that is there are a great number of people that believe that being gay is a choice. so as long as its a choice the gay person can accept their lot in life. as long as there is a debate on gay choice, there will be a debate on gay rights as well.

while states do honor drivers and marriage licenses from other states, you can only live for so long in a state without getting a new drivers license. and divorce in nevada is not honored in any state other than nevada, so there is some precedent for seperate state rules. it may mean modifying state laws so if you move to another state you have to reapply for a marriage license in that state, but it prolly could be done. after all, hetro marriage is not proscribed on a federal level, i dont think homo marriage would have to be either.

but im not a lawyer either.

[shartley]

Originally posted by logamus
well im quite certain the black community doesnt want their plight compaired or even mentioned in the same breath as the gays. and at this point in time the are not the same. my question has always been should we wait for the plight of the gays to reach that level before we act? the underlying problem with that is there are a great number of people that believe that being gay is a choice. so as long as its a choice the gay person can accept their lot in life. as long as there is a debate on gay choice, there will be a debate on gay rights as well.

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by logamus
while states do honor drivers and marriage licenses from other states, you can only live for so long in a state without getting a new drivers license. and divorce in nevada is not honored in any state other than nevada, so there is some precedent for seperate state rules. it may mean modifying state laws so if you move to another state you have to reapply for a marriage license in that state, but it prolly could be done. after all, hetro marriage is not proscribed on a federal level, i dont think homo marriage would have to be either.

but im not a lawyer either.

Did you read the link to the US Constitution that I posted? A legally issued marriage license is good in any other state!!!!!!

[71 LS6]

By Logamus:

the underlying problem with that is there are a great number of people that believe that being gay is a choice.

A kid in my school "came out of the closet" a couple of weeks ago. I have known him since 5th grade (he's now a senior) and he has had and expressed interest in women, as well as dated some. He has always liked attention, so he decided to become gay like, as SHartley said, being gay is the next cool thing.

[logamus]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


Did you read the link to the US Constitution that I posted? A legally issued marriage license is good in any other state!!!!!!

i did read it, however if you move back to maryland do you get to keep your jersey drivers license? is that not also a license granted to you by the state? i have a texas fishing and hunting license, can i drive up to jersey and get me some bass? ah, perhaps i should sue jersey for making me get one of their licenses and not honoring mine.

[logamus]

Originally posted by shartley

wow mr. hartley, those are some "flaming" views you have there. i for one would rather not see a few gay guys swinging from the trees around my house, but thats just me. i guess im weird that way.

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by logamus

i did read it, however if you move back to maryland do you get to keep your jersey drivers license? is that not also a license granted to you by the state? i have a texas fishing and hunting license, can i drive up to jersey and get me some bass? ah, perhaps i should sue jersey for making me get one of their licenses and not honoring mine.

Yet when I moved from Marykand to NJ, I didn't have to get married again. My original Marriage certificate was honored.

Also, when I moved from Maryland to NJ, I was allowed to keep my MD D/l for 18 months. Finally state regulation of inner state issues is a big difference. Marriage is a federal issue because of the federal recognition of marriage: Tax Breaks, SSI benefits, etc....

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


Yet when I moved from Marykand to NJ, I didn't have to get married again. My original Marriage certificate was honored.

Don't think I didn't try. But my wife wouldn't let me have another wife too!

[logamus]

the last thing any of us need is one more wife. im surprised i have survived as long as i have with one!

i think im done with political debates, they hurt my head and never accompilsh anything.

[shartley]

Originally posted by logamus

wow mr. hartley, those are some "flaming" views you have there. i for one would rather not see a few gay guys swinging from the trees around my house, but thats just me. i guess im weird that way.

[aaron_mag]

Originally posted by shartley

I liked the "flaming" context in relation to the subject matter....don't know whether the pun was meant or not...but funny....

[shartley]

Originally posted by aaron_mag


I liked the "flaming" context in relation to the subject matter....don't know whether the pun was meant or not...but funny....

[logamus]

Originally posted by shartley

i did read your whole post, i just decided not to quote the whole thing. i dont feel i took anything out of context. to suggest that your views on gays is not red hot is just not being honest on your part. you have very intense views on the current social standards as they relate to the gay community, and thats fine, but they are intense.

and yes aaron, it was certainly done on purpose.

[shartley]

Originally posted by logamus


i did read your whole post, i just decided not to quote the whole thing. i dont feel i took anything out of context. to suggest that your views on gays is not red hot is just not being honest on your part. you have very intense views on the current social standards as they relate to the gay community, and thats fine, but they are intense.

and yes aaron, it was certainly done on purpose.

[logamus]

Originally posted by shartley

LOL You could not be more wrong.

oh yeah, let me get my wife she promises i can be more wrong!!!


is it just me or is ao running molasses slow tonight?