best form of martial arts?

[WicKeD_WaYz]

hahaha i wonder who wears the pants in that relationship.

[SpecialBlend2786]

hahaha i wonder who wears the pants in that relationship.

hahahaha
oh I do....she just doesn't know it

[tropical_fishy]

whats great acutally is the variety of forms colleges offer now(just found out they actually do have MMA sparring as well) , i have a knee problem, so i would plan to stay away from thai and jius jistsu. this is another reason why i like aikido, you can just use your oppodents moving mass against them. looking forward to kendo as well

You know, it's weird, but I rarely hear anyone complain about knees in class. A lot of people were knee pads, but no one really gets hurt. Except that time someone dislocated all my fingers, but that's another story.

I think that if you really want to do martial arts, you should look around until you find something that's really interesting to you. If you're bored oyu wont go to class, and then you'll waste your time and money.

hahaha i wonder who wears the pants in that relationship.

He thinks he does.


PSSST-- ask him to tell you about the flowers. Or the ribbons.

[Jakedubbleya]

im downloading some mma videos, man those aikido guys kick karate's *** its even more funny when you can tell the karate guys havent learned how to roll the right way

From what i hear (old chinese dudes talking)...

WARNING! OVERKILL HISTORY LESSON! lol...

Aikaido has 2 diff. mainstream styles and is about 100 yrs old. One focuses on the Ki aspect which was founded by a pupil of the original creator of Aikaido. While the original focuses on the martial aspect and is much more applicable to those that do not spend their lives developing their Ki energies. I dont think that the Ki oriented style uses Ki in the traditional and effective sense anyway. Aikaido is based on Goshin-Jutsu, a style created by the first shaolin martail arts master.

Zen, is the Japanese version of what the original shaolin martial artist master made up to be Charn Buddhism. Charn Buddhism actually conflicted with Shaolin Buddhism, but the master never succesfully finished spreading Charn Buddhism and much of his martial arts techniques fell to the Shaolin monks who used it only as a defensive discipline for a logn time untill it was leaked out a sShaolin Boxing.

Karate on the other hand, is older, more powerful, and yet much more diluted than Aikado. Karate originated from Kung Fu of course, the kung-fu was transformed into a hand to weapon style by the occupants of okinawa who although devoid of weaponry (it was banned), needed to defend themselves from armed japanese intruders, somewhere around the 1500's i think. Although there are a few natives and secluded grand masters with original scrolls and all that mumbo jumbo who have supposedly conditioned their entire bodies bones and all into iron, the old chinese dudes say that most karate is "piss". Lol.

Basically, almost every martial art is a derivative of some Shaolin style, and all original shaolin styles were focused on Buddhist Chi energy which is a modification of the Hindu's Prana energy. Masters of this energy can become much greater fighters than those who focus on the physical aspects, which are basically the cornerstone of all new styles. Flopside is, masters of Chi arent supposed to use that energy in violent competion like that which is why you dont see fat old chinese guys throwing big buff americans across the room while drinking tea.

just what ive come to understand from like i said, one accupuncturist who was taiwan champion for 5 years before he studied Chi more in-depth, and one who was raised by shaolin monks who can literally move you across a table without touching you, if anybody knows differently on the actual history id be curious to discuss it:)

Hope this isnt too off topic... especially considering i dont even take oriental martial arts

[Vex]

My father-in-law is a 4th degree black belt in Shaolin-Do Kung Fu, so I tend to be a little partial to the Chinese arts; however, I have immense respect and appreciation for all things Japanese, so I tend to also be a little biased and a bit of an eliteist.
Then there's always the fact that my five year old son is in Tae Kwon Do. I never cared for TKD and always thought of it as just a sport and very commercialized. After being involved with it for a while, and seeing some of the instructors in action at tournaments, I have a new respect for it--as a sport; but, if you were going to get in a fight, and that's all that you knew, then life could be a lot worse.

[Thordic]

In my opinion, it seems that three styles work the best.

Wrestling, BJJ, and MT Kickboxing.

Its amazing how successfully "plain old" greco-roman wrestling can compete with the other martial arts when you learn a little bit of striking to round yourself out.

As a fairly big guy (6'2") I tend to prefer grappling if I'm going to fight someone. I can use weight and leverage to my advantage. A smaller guy may want to avoid going to the mat, though.

I think its safe to say you can't rely on any single style, though. If you tried to fight in MMA with JUST wrestling, and no striking, you'd probably get killed. If you tried to fight with, say, TKD, you'd prolly get killed. You need a balance between striking and grappling, if you want to compete, anyway.

Judo is good, my friend was a Judo instructor and messing around with him was always a learning experience.

Ok I'm done rambling.

[oldsoldier]

Whatever happened to good ole barroom brawls? A stool to the head works almost every time...

[Duck Hunt]

Jeet Kune Do.

Sean

[SIGSays]

As a fairly big guy (6'2") I tend to prefer grappling if I'm going to fight someone. I can use weight and leverage to my advantage. A smaller guy may want to avoid going to the mat, though.

big guy huh? i would use your height / weight to your disadvantage...
i know that it's harder for a person to stay balanced when they're taller....
works for me...

[Thordic]

big guy huh? i would use your height / weight to your disadvantage...
i know that it's harder for a person to stay balanced when they're taller....
works for me...

I used to mess around with my friend Gabe, who was a state champion wrestler in the 118 lb class, and he would still manage to mess me up quite often, I know size isn't the end-all.

But it was hard for him to fight when I'd manage to ball him up and lift him up off the ground :) Then I could bounce him off walls.

But since I have a higher center of gravity, I'd rather be the one doing the knocking down and taking the fight to the ground than be taken to the ground myself.

[Lohman446]

The weaver stance rules all

Ok, actually having practiced a revised form of Kenpo for several years I don't like the weaver stance, even when armed.. to me one of the forms (such as Kenpo a Chaun Fa) that the basic tenent is "if its effective its a good move" tend to be stronger and more adaptable than some traditional forms.

[edweird]

Due to my wonky schedule Im slacking off on starting the MMA I had planned... however this was my plan:

Systema- Old secret Spetznaz martial art from east russia. Some say this is derived from the father art of Akido, and honestly it makes akido look "stiff" If I cant get this my 2nd choice is Akido
Brazilian JuJitsu- good old ground work at its best, since alot of fights end up on the ground I might as well train for that
Kempo- Hands down I think traditional Kempo has some of the most vicious standing hand to hand work of all systems, also it works scary well with the karambit stuff ive been practicing.
Sayoc Kali- Im armed nearly 100% of the time, and honestly with a weapon Sayoc is the most lethal thing next to a hollow point to your C1.

if I can find instruction I would love to train in Wing Chun or Tai Chi Chuan to break up my already stiff flow, which I see as my primary downfall. Also I would jump at the oppurtunity to learn Pencak Silat as I find it terribly appealing rare art to learn.

I really dislike martial arts that are sport based(TKD, karate, kendo and Judo to a lesser extent) due to the fact im not wanting to learn something to get a point, but would rather fluidly defend myself, "disable" my attacker and move on to the next attacker if applicable.

Oh and when outside of 21 feet I will always resort to my 26 years of "Gun-fu". and yes there is a reason why I say 21 feet.

[Lohman446]

Oh and when outside of 21 feet I will always resort to my 26 years of "Gun-fu". and yes there is a reason why I say 21 feet.

Closer than 21 feet a reasonable in shape, or marginally trained attacker will generally have as much chance as ending with the gun as you do. Now I have taken weapon retention adn worked it in with Kenpo, I doubt I would be disarmed, that being said I have a serious issue, considering my training, if I cannot distance myself far enough (and the 21 feet is a statistically based figure) to draw a gun and end a situation (through force or brandishment) or to finish it without taking the distance.

[WingMan13]

Shooting. It's a martial art.

Agreed, I prefer gun-fu .45

I've seen Aikido dudes open cans though! Always wanted to try some of that.

[edweird]

Generalally speaking there is a rule of conflict called the "rule of 21" where within 21 feet an aware person with a holstered firearm with statistically lose versus an assailant with a knife or other martial weapon.

Ive watched training videos of scores of officers entering the same training room to "confront" a disorderly "homeless guy" all resulting in the officer getting owned when he breaks the 21 foot barrier. Due to this I want more in my bag of tricks than a proficency with firearms and some fancy sport based martial art