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  • Thordic
    AFTICA
    • May 2001
    • 5986

    #31
    If simply defending yourself is your goal, go learn Krav Maga. It'd be kinda useless in MMA, but in real life, hard to beat it.

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    • Lohman446
      Useful posts: 7
      • Jun 2003
      • 9315

      #32
      To me, I beleive in useful martial arts... as such pure show or even "competition" forms don't necesarrily define the best to me. And yes I competed when I did Kenpo. To me the best martial art is the one that is going to allow me, and those with me, to escape whatever situation I am in alive, and as unhurt as possible - Krav Maga may well be this. Again, I point out the that martial arts that have a theory "if it works its a good move" are, at least to me, great for this purpose, and very adaptable.
      "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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      • Target Practice
        irc.zirc.org:6667 = chat!
        • Nov 2003
        • 3180

        #33
        Originally posted by Thordic
        If simply defending yourself is your goal, go learn Krav Maga. It'd be kinda useless in MMA, but in real life, hard to beat it.
        Krav Maga isn't a defensive style. Krav Maga is pretty much 100 percent offence.

        Edit: But I see where you're going with that.


        "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.

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        • Thordic
          AFTICA
          • May 2001
          • 5986

          #34
          Self-defense doesn't necessarily mean "defense". In my opinion, self-defense is the act of keeping yourself from being injured when attacked.

          Krav Maga is a way to defend yourself through offense. They attack you, you break their leg, and run away while they hobble around screaming. That sort of thing. Its about disabling an attacker so you can get away from the situation.

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          • Jakedubbleya
            Don Quixote
            • Mar 2005
            • 631

            #35
            The 21 feet thing....

            Couldnt you just run away from the knife guy while you unholster your firearm?

            And what if your the fastest gun in the west?

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            • Target Practice
              irc.zirc.org:6667 = chat!
              • Nov 2003
              • 3180

              #36
              Originally posted by Jakedubbleya
              The 21 feet thing....

              Couldnt you just run away from the knife guy while you unholster your firearm?
              No, that doesn't work.


              "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.

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              • Lohman446
                Useful posts: 7
                • Jun 2003
                • 9315

                #37
                Originally posted by Jakedubbleya
                The 21 feet thing....

                Couldnt you just run away from the knife guy while you unholster your firearm?

                And what if your the fastest gun in the west?

                The general theory is to break his arm / disarm him / break a knee.. then get 21 feet and see if he would be interested in negotiation - the .45 barrel pointed at him tends to increase the willingness to negotiate
                "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                • ascetic1
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 95

                  #38
                  Ok i have read your posts on the 21 foot rule, but dont understand it, someone please elaborate? lol What about Ninjitsu? i have been interested in some form of defesive/offensive training involving martial arts, but the nearest thing to me is Karate and i took that when i was younger, booring....

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                  • Target Practice
                    irc.zirc.org:6667 = chat!
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3180

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ascetic1
                    Ok i have read your posts on the 21 foot rule, but dont understand it, someone please elaborate? lol What about Ninjitsu? i have been interested in some form of defesive/offensive training involving martial arts, but the nearest thing to me is Karate and i took that when i was younger, booring....

                    I hate to keep this thread alive with stupid comments (oh, hello there, Mr. ) but I'm going to answer your question.

                    The average able-bodied man can cover 21 feet in less time it takes to draw, make ready, and fire a sidearm. Can you extrapolate the rest from there, or do we have to keep going?


                    "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.

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                    • gc82000
                      LNIB just a few scratches
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1346

                      #40
                      On Guam there is a very good variety of trainers that I can easily train with, oneespaecially is my friend who runs a gym and at one time was number four in the world of BJJ after a NY Abidabi event. He lost to Rickson Gracie by points in overtime.

                      There are also some great Judo studios that are here but I do not really want to get into an art if I just want to learn one aspect of it, clinch take downs.

                      Muay thai is very small on Guam and is another reason why I want to learn it. But I want to stick mainly to Jui Jitsu and Muay thai
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                      • WicKeD_WaYz
                        Ohio State Football #91
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 1817

                        #41
                        Originally posted by tropical_fishy


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                        Alright cmon lets hear it. :)

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                        • Glickman
                          *Insert Witty Phrase*
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2673

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Target Practice
                          I hate to keep this thread alive with stupid comments (oh, hello there, Mr. ) but I'm going to answer your question.

                          The average able-bodied man can cover 21 feet in less time it takes to draw, make ready, and fire a sidearm. Can you extrapolate the rest from there, or do we have to keep going?
                          at 15 mph, wihch even at that is a little fast for a fit 18 year old, thats about 24 feet per second.

                          i think 10 is more reasonable, which is 16 feet per second, with about a second and a half


                          even we clumbsy people can shoot .6 without prior attempts

                          i think theres enough time to draw, and unsafety

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                          • Lohman446
                            Useful posts: 7
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 9315

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Glickman
                            at 15 mph, wihch even at that is a little fast for a fit 18 year old, thats about 24 feet per second.

                            i think 10 is more reasonable, which is 16 feet per second, with about a second and a half


                            even we clumbsy people can shoot .6 without prior attempts

                            i think theres enough time to draw, and unsafety
                            Statistics indicate its not true
                            "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                            • Glickman
                              *Insert Witty Phrase*
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2673

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Lohman446
                              Statistics indicate its not true
                              what statistics?

                              im watching a video of a 4 year old, take out a revolver, cock it while aiming, and firing in 1.2 seconds.

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                              • Lohman446
                                Useful posts: 7
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 9315

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Glickman
                                what statistics?

                                im watching a video of a 4 year old, take out a revolver, cock it while aiming, and firing in 1.2 seconds.
                                FBI and San Diego?? investigations into officer fatalities in the 50??s I think. I forget exactly but investigations into officer fatalities, as well as consideration of training... indicates it
                                "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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