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  • BobTheCow
    IAO Gold Star winner (BTK)
    • Dec 2002
    • 3832

    #1

    Airsoft pistol in dorm lands me ridiculous punishment

    The "incident," if you will, occured a couple of weeks ago. My roommate Jeff and I were screwing around in the room about 10 some weeknight. We had just rediscovered an airsoft pistol I had tucked away in some bag. Jeff was holding it in his hand, not shooting it or pointing it at anything in particular, just as an RA walked by the open door. She sort of did a double-take, then chirped "SOOOOO not allowed."



    Damn. Makes sense though, should've seen it coming. She asked him to unload the thing (wasn't loaded to begin with) and give her the gun and any pellets we had for it, which he did. Then she asked us if we had anything else in the room she should know about, and of course we said no (our bags full of paintball junk were stowed away fairly secretively). She was acting like this was no big deal at all, and being fairly friendly about the whole thing, and for SOME reason I chimed in with "we don't have anything else, but actually that's mine, Jeff was just messing with it."

    Hurrrrr...

    So she got my name and ID number too, and left with the stuff. We had completely forgotten about the situation within 15 minutes.

    A couple of days later, I got a charge notice in my mailbox, informing me I had been charged with a weapons violation and should contact judicial affairs to schedule a hearing. *sigh* I called them and scheduled the appointment, but still didn't expect much more than a slap on the wrist.



    Two days ago was my meeting. I met with Katie, the Coordinator of Judicial Affairs, this past Tuesday. She asked me such meaningful questions as "Are you a gun enthusiast? Do you own a gun? Would you consider purchasing a firearm in the future? If so, would you research the model of the firearm, and its power?" ad nauseum, for half an hour. I thought I achieved the perfect balance of honesty and PC bullcrap she wanted to hear, and left her office still not anticipating any serious consequences. She was surprisingly amiable throughout the whole discussion.

    Today, I found an envelope in my mailbox from Judicial Affairs, marked CONFIDENTIAL. A very thick, forboding envelope. I don't have a camera, but I'll transcribe some of the 3-page letter that was inside.

    From our discussion and the related incident report No. 5FA0041, the following is believed to be true:
    • You are responsible for violating the University weapons policy.

    As a result of your infraction, the following sanctions will apply:
    1. You have been placed on disciplinary probation through May 31, 2006. This means that further violations of University policy may lead to the sanction of suspension. A student on such probation may remain at the University only upon the condition that the student comply with regulations and standards of the institution and with such other measures as may be imposed as a condition of the student's probation.
    2. You have been placed on deferred suspension from University residential facilities through May 31, 2006. Further violations of University policy may lead to the sanction of suspension from the residence halls. A student on such a deferred sanction may remain in University residential facilities only upon the condition that the student complies with regulations and standards for the institution and with such other measures as may be imposed as a condition of the student's sanction.
    3. You must write a reflective paper (refer to the enclosed instruction sheet). Your paper is due no later than Ocotber 14, 2005... blah blah blah.
    4. A copy of this letter of censure will be placed in your file.
    5. Failure to comply with the above listed sanctions may result in more severe sanctions, including the possibility of suspension from the University.

    The above sanctions cannot be appealed unless based on a due process violation or upon receipt of information not available at the time of the Initial Conference...

    Here's that enclosed sheet (grammatical nuances and all):

    Write a reflective paper responding to the following questions:
    1. Research the make and model of the weapon that you fired on campus. Write a description of its power, including velocity of bb, firing range, etc.
    2. The guiding mantra of the Office of Judicial Affairs is responsible freedom. Develop an interpretation of responsible freedom and apply this meaning to your actions in the incident.
    3. Watch the movie, Bowling For Columbine, by filmmaker Michael Moore. Identify the main theme of the movie. Comment on your thoughts on the film's theme. How do you feel about the film's portrayal of the Columbine incident and its critique of current societal laws regarding gun control? What duties do you feel accompany gun ownership and/or use of a firearm.

    The paper must be 10-12 pages in length, double-spaced, and in 12 point Times New Roman font with no larger than 1" margins. Submit your composed paper to... blah blah, blah blah.



    Disciplinary probation? Deferred Suspension? 10 page paper? MICHAEL MOORE?!? All for an airsoft gun. That I wasn't even holding, that wasn't even fired.
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  • CaptaiN_JacK
    will get you high tonight
    • Jan 2003
    • 947

    #2
    I would definitly appeal this (for lack of better words). Complete poppycock. I'm glad my campus is super-liberal, and our ra and ca are really cool.

    Edited- Tato
    Last edited by Potatoboy; 09-29-2005, 03:59 PM.

    War is peace

    Freedom is slavery

    Ignorance is strength

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    • Muzikman
      Everything AGD
      • Dec 2000
      • 6229

      #3
      Ya know everything seemed normal and up to par until the paper. Those are some of the strangest most liberal things I have ever heard a student "required" to do. Also, are they buying the movie for you? I would be completly honest in the paper. State your views even if it's not what they want to hear. If they don't like it, I would be looking for another school.

      That being said, get the paintball gear out of the dorm asap. All you need is for them to find that.

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      • Muzikman
        Everything AGD
        • Dec 2000
        • 6229

        #4
        Originally posted by CaptaiN_JacK
        I would definitly appeal this (for lack of better words). Complete poppycock. I'm glad my campus is super-liberal, and our ra and ca are really cool.
        Your "Super-Liberal" campus would let you get away with something like this?

        Edited Quote- Tato
        Last edited by Potatoboy; 09-29-2005, 03:59 PM.

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        • Muzikman
          Everything AGD
          • Dec 2000
          • 6229

          #5
          Oh, and did they give you back the gun?

          Oh, and did you ask if you could have a squirt gun?

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          • Big'n slo
            Sponsored by...my paycheck
            • Mar 2003
            • 1909

            #6
            Should have shot her, stashed the evidence, and plead insanity.


            papers suck

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            • SCpoloRicker
              HA HA I'm custom!!1
              • Jan 2004
              • 4375

              #7
              Psh, liberals on college campuses.

              In the administration no less! Who da thunk it?
              God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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              • Lohman446
                Useful posts: 7
                • Jun 2003
                • 9315

                #8
                Hmm... at least my college

                1) To attend a publically funded university you were required to pay them rent and live there for the first two years (well intentioned rules, but hey, who cares about intent)
                2) You were required to by a "meal plan" from a private company resulting in prepaying for meals for the semester. If you used them all you paid roughly $8 per meal for breakfast lunch and dinner. You could not transfer them.
                3) You were required to live under the rules of the dorm (again well intentioned) that I felt deprived me of recognized rights (even though state law allowed them to do just that).

                I protested heavily - the second year I lived on campus (two years required) I was allowed to pick my dorm room - and you all thought the lottery system for the "best" dorm rooms was real. It was the negotiated agreement, I had orignally wanted a waiver of the two year rule to be allowed to live off campus.
                "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                • BobTheCow
                  IAO Gold Star winner (BTK)
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 3832

                  #9
                  I'll be getting rid of the paintball junk next week when I go home for the weekend.

                  I don't know about squirt guns, but nerf guns have been confiscated all over too.

                  They're not supplying the movie.

                  I plan on giving them the exact opposite of what they expect in the paper. I'll do some research for ways to tear apart Bowling for Columbine. Since I simply DIDN'T fire the airsoft gun, and the make/model/velocity BS will take about a paragraph, I'll have plenty of space to get it done.
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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #10
                    The guiding mantra of the Office of Judicial Affairs is responsible freedom. Develop an interpretation of responsible freedom and apply this meaning to your actions in the incident.
                    Considering the course of action taken by an organization of educated officials who use this as there guiding mantra it would appear that responsible freedom defines the freedom portion much in the same way that Russia did under Stalin. Apparently freedoms are curtailed only until they fall within the confines of an assinine system of values that has as little to do with protecting the safety of those involved as it does with freedom as invisioned by the founding fathers.


                    Yeh.. my paper would likely get me kicked out.
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                    • Resurection
                      bringing the game back
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 923

                      #11
                      My paper would definately get me expullsion, suspension, or ejection. Maybe some other '-ion' words too....

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                      • Rather
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 757

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BobTheCow
                        [*]Watch the movie, Bowling For Columbine, by filmmaker Michael Moore. Identify the main theme of the movie. Comment on your thoughts on the film's theme. How do you feel about the film's portrayal of the Columbine incident and its critique of current societal laws regarding gun control? What duties do you feel accompany gun ownership and/or use of a firearm.[/list]

                        Sounds like brainwashing/torture techniques to me.

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                        • behemoth
                          SVSTC?
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 7750

                          #13
                          I wouldnt do it.

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                          • Rather
                            Registered User
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 757

                            #14
                            Originally posted by behemoth
                            I wouldnt do it.

                            I WOULD say the same but.... Chances are he could get kicked out, and get 'blacklisted' by other colleges cause he had a 'gun' on campus.

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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #15
                              What exactly is your university's weapon policy?
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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