IONized 'Mag Pneu-frame?

[Scott Hudnall]

No video tonight.

Played several games of rec with my kid and friends at the field today. had a great time, but used one of my old skool mags and a shoebox shocker.

towards the end of the day, broke out the iMag. fired several at the chrono/target range. no problem. then started having problems with the bolt not resetting fully. Not sure the issues, here, so I'm going to try a few options with the power tube spacer, main spring, and try a different bolt. Also, have an old skool on/off which I'm gonna switch out, even older than the one I replaced the "reactor" on/off with.

I was surprised that several peeps at the field, some of my old skool buddies, had heard about the iMag project already. kind of interesting to know that.

Okay, back to tweaking this thing a bit more. Will have time in the next few days.

[gotboostedvr6]

keep us informed of any updates.... o_O

[Scott Hudnall]

Okay, have resolved the problem with the bolt. Increased the LPR pressure slightly and the whole system was working exceptionally well.

Now....and this isn't good news for me at all....I've developed a small leak in the solenoid which is driving me absolutely mad. This is also, seemingly, causing the whole board/solenoid to not function properly.

I'm at my wits end.

I've got to get away from this project for a few days.

[Zneaky]

Scott,

When I get mad at a part, I just buy another one. $35 will buy you a lot of peace and a new ion board.

Example: Earlier this week I was getting my gun ready for play next week. I did the whole pnue-mag thing, It kept leaking somewhere around the bolt or on/off. So after disassemble and re-assemble 12 times I took my ULT out and put in my old on/off. Leak stopped. Turned up my LPR, ordered a new ULT and will play this week with a little heavier pull.

For me, if it's under $50, it's just easier to replace.

Thanks again for being a Automag pioneer; and inventing new thing that the rest of us can see, dream about, and copy. Guys like you make all the players at our local fields wonder "Was that a mag, a cocker, or an ion?"

I love it,

Z

[Scott Hudnall]

Thanks Z. I appreciate the encouragement.

if I can't get the crappy stock ION board leak figured out, then if I pursue another board (this would be board #3 for this same project) it won't be a SP stock board. Would likely be one of the aftermarket boards. The stock board and solenoid is just too stinkin' fragile, easy to break, battery wires break, etc.

Meanwhile, another AO member, Omegared, is almost finished with his iMag.

I'm sure there's others who are giving it consideration. My recommendation at this time would be to NOT use a stock ION board. How many peeps want to jump in and say "I told ya so????"

Meanwhile, undoubtedly, the iMag is proven to work. It really is no different in concept than the electro-pneumatic 'mag that "the electrician" built, except that the ION board comes as a complete set up, although bulky, and you are required to re-route the air through one of the two methods shown on this thread (** cough cough ** mine is easiest *** cough cough**).

I'm weighing my options on the project. I've already got a modest amount of $$ sunk into this project. Not $$ like a new shocker or Emag, but enough to make me want to consider whether I should "invest" $100 in another board.

Dang, it is fun to tinker with this project, though. Maybe I can put a few items on the "for sale" forum or ebay and raise the dough.

cheers.

[afortuna]

(** cough cough ** T-Board *** cough cough**).

Keep up the good work. I only wish I had the time and probably more importantly the money to be able to do what you have with a mag.

Thanks Z. I appreciate the encouragement.

if I can't get the crappy stock ION board leak figured out, then if I pursue another board (this would be board #3 for this same project) it won't be a SP stock board. Would likely be one of the aftermarket boards. The stock board and solenoid is just too stinkin' fragile, easy to break, battery wires break, etc.

Meanwhile, another AO member, Omegared, is almost finished with his iMag.

I'm sure there's others who are giving it consideration. My recommendation at this time would be to NOT use a stock ION board. How many peeps want to jump in and say "I told ya so????"

Meanwhile, undoubtedly, the iMag is proven to work. It really is no different in concept than the electro-pneumatic 'mag that "the electrician" built, except that the ION board comes as a complete set up, although bulky, and you are required to re-route the air through one of the two methods shown on this thread (** cough cough ** mine is easiest *** cough cough**).

I'm weighing my options on the project. I've already got a modest amount of $$ sunk into this project. Not $$ like a new shocker or Emag, but enough to make me want to consider whether I should "invest" $100 in another board.

Dang, it is fun to tinker with this project, though. Maybe I can put a few items on the "for sale" forum or ebay and raise the dough.

cheers.

[BigEvil]

Scott,

Your solenoid leak may be a result of too high of an input pressure into it. The noid I used on my Evilmag does the same thing. Some of them cannot handle the pressure needed to trip a non-ult on/off. Yes, I hear that the Smart Part ION noid is very fragile. I have successfully used a ULT in a classic valve for a spydermag application. It will work just fine, but you will not be able to get the uber rates of fire like with the Xvalve, since the AIR valve just cannot push the little ULT back fast enough.


Hope this helped.

[pump]

hey why not a spitfire board...it uses a mac niod

[FinchMan]

hey why not a spitfire board...it uses a mac niod

I think his mod kinda relys on modifying the stock solinoid.

[ghostdog2019]

Lucky Paintball

Lucky Paintball does a complete noid and board replacement for the ion. They run $99.00 but it would probably be more durable then the stock ion board and noid.

-Mike

[pump]

Lucky Paintball does a complete noid and board replacement for the ion. They run $99.00 but it would probably be more durable then the stock ion board and noid.

-Mike

yeah the

spitfire board uses a mac niod

[havocx]

update Scott? video?

[Scott Hudnall]

No update as of today.

I have heard from several AO members, though, who are in the final stages of finishing their iMag. One enterprising AO member even disassembled parts from the ION board to fit it in his frame. I can't wait to see that one. I'll encourage them to post pics.

[armyboot]

Any updates?

[Zneaky]

Any updates?

I am the "brain surgeon" who has disassemble the ion board and wired all the pieces so I can place them where I want, and get the battery in the trigger frame. I started with melting on/off switches (board #1). Then I melted little black boxes on the board (board #2). On Board #3, I got everythinthing to work, then got everything in the frame, and the gun did fire in ramping mode, then went to put the triger switch in and a wire came off, in putting that wire back on, I fried board number 3. I have 2 more boards coming, and one virture board, that will stay in it's box until I get really good at this.

So this week, I wanted to play, so I installed one of the tringger switches into my pneumag and used the solenoid to activate the mpa-3. It is a simple circuit creating a semi-auto electronic, but it is so light, it blows the plain pneumag out of the water. I can walk it very easily, and I am the worse walker. Some time after Jan 8th, I will begin board number 4 and hopefully, with all these parts in place, I should be able to do it without any burning more boards.

Z