IONized 'Mag Pneu-frame?

[nicad]

Well since fords are ****,it would be more like putting an engine from a ford into a much better,Chevy!

Tony

huh.. really?

[RoamingStorm]

Really to do it right I would get a neutral board and copy the circuitry of the blackhart board onto it in a manner that would fit the frame.

what about the programming?

[Stealth Fighter]

Well since fords are ****,it would be more like putting an engine from a ford into a much better,Chevy!

Tony

Then why do more people put there Chevy engine into a Ford, if Ford's are ****, they would have bought a Chevy in the first place. DUH!

[Corbet]

Just discovered this thread and things look like its really coming along!

I'm not advanced enough to try and do this myself just yet but when full instructions with pics are up I'd be interested in doing this!

Will it be possible with a y-grip?

[Corbet]

It this project dead/failure? Seems like we haven't had a update in a while

How is the air efficietency compared the pneumag? Thats the biggest drawback for me. I was thinking about making a pneumag but 500 shots on a 88ci 4500 PSI tank doesnt cut it for me.

[nicad]

500 shots???
wow. no.. The hAir triggers we built only used energy equal to about 3 to 4 shots from a 68/4500.. in otherwords, you should not notice an air useage difference.

[Corbet]

500 shots???
wow. no.. The hAir triggers we built only used energy equal to about 3 to 4 shots from a 68/4500.. in otherwords, you should not notice an air useage difference.

hmmmm... I was going through the Pneumatic Trigger Frame thread and someone mentioned it was a gas hog but "isn't a big deal because my field has all day air"

[personman]

hmmmm... I was going through the Pneumatic Trigger Frame thread and someone mentioned it was a gas hog but "isn't a big deal because my field has all day air"

Mags in general are often labled 'gas hogs' even though they really arent that bad on air.
Anyway, if adding a ram made a gun less efficient, cockers would be horrible on air and we know they arent.

[Scott Hudnall]

Sorry for the lack of updates.

Some other major stuff has been happening (outside of paintball....go figure....) so I've had to set the project down for a little while.

It's not dead by any means. just on the workbench at the moment.

[geekwarrior]

Sorry for the lack of updates.

Some other major stuff has been happening (outside of paintball....go figure....) so I've had to set the project down for a little while.

It's not dead by any means. just on the workbench at the moment.

he lives!

[warbeak2099]

Then why do more people put there Chevy engine into a Ford, if Ford's are ****, they would have bought a Chevy in the first place. DUH!

Because the Chevy engines perform better and are made with better quality. Not that American automobiles have that great quality in general, but Ford is definitely the worst.

Anyhoo, this mod looks extremely interesting. I am super excited to see how it turns out. As for life getting in the way of fun, I hear ya lol.

[NinjaoftheNight79]

Well, to bring myself into this whole discussion, I would like to say that this idea is amazing. I personally wouldn't do it because I am a battery Nazi (hate batteries on paintball guns) and I would rather either get a normal Pneumag, but that doesn't mean much. I personally don't think this will work by looking at the size pictures. I sure hope you can prove me wrong, for I would love to see that.

As far as the Pneumag goes, obviously it is gonna lower the efficiency by some, but if you look at the pressure differances, you could figure it out. You have 850 psi going into the valve to run the marker (and probably getting regulated to somewhere between 250-450 psi) while the LPR would be regulating out 40-50 psi. Big differance there. I doubt the differance will be that big, maybe somewhere between 20-50 shots on a good 68/4500, but that is just my own estimate.

[nicad]

On a bad day, running about 60psi on the pneumatic trigger, You will burn about 1.5cilb of energy. A 68/45 tank holds 306000cilb of energy.

If you are getting 1200 shots off your mag before, that is burning about 255cilb per shot.
so, 1200*1.5cilb wasted with the pneumatic trigger= 1800cilb used, or about 7 shots less.
This is assuming a really crappy valve/ram setup and a plunger that is moving prolly too far for the sear.


Like I said... 3 to 4, maybe 5 shots fewer on a good setup.

[Bossman]

I always had great efficiency from my Pneumag.....MSV-1, MPA3.

[Hooter42]

quick get this project done so we can see if it works. Was thinking about doing the pnuemag but now maybe this instead.