IONized 'Mag Pneu-frame?

[FinchMan]

so who's making one?

curses on my slim/none college upgrades budget.

[Scott Hudnall]

I'm right in the middle of it.

Okay Nicad.....thanks for clearing up the confusion (on my behalf). After re-reading your post, it makes perfect sense.

Okay, so if I were to drill a small relief hole in the MPA-3, which would allow the pressure to vent when the actuator was at the maximum level (or workable level) in the cylinder, then the MPA-3 should vent and make the air circuit a 3 way.

I have enough room in the Logic frame to allow for a little forward/backward adjustment of the MPA3, so maybe that is my solution.

How well do you think your air input mod (newly placed air nipple) will hold up under moderate use? Do you think that the threads will hold up considering that the plastic is a little thin there?

I emailed YDNA and posted a link to your mod. He was impressed and said it looks like it will work fine.

You've done great work. Thanks.

[nicad]

Cool... YDNA is the man when it comes to anything smart parts.. and then some.


I am not sure I understand what you are trying to accomplish with the hole drilled in the MPA3 tho.
With the way I modified tyhe Ion noid, the hole is not needed.
With the "springless" 2-way Ion noid you were talking about doing, a hole in the MPA3 will still not return... unless I am completely mis-understanding what you are wanting to do.??


The air barb on the bottom in the plastic is pretty sound.. It could be stripped out I suppose, but you would have to really be trying...

out!

[Scott Hudnall]

I've not made any solenoid mods yet. I'm stll considering the next step. obviously, one stupid move with the solenoid or board and it's history.

When you drilled the bottom of the solenoid housing to put the air barb in it, did you have to tap it also, or was the plastic thin enough pretty much self tap? Do you think a spot of glue or anything else would help to reinforce it?

Thanks. If I decide to go with the solenoid mod you've accomplished, I would need some help with the plunger being machined. and maybe a small spring. I can handle the rest. If you don't have time to do it, no problem. If you can (i know you are busy, man) then PM me with a price. Thanks Nicad.

[Bossman]

Great stuff Nicad. Great to see you involved with this thread.

[FinchMan]

I'm right in the middle of it.

Okay Nicad.....thanks for clearing up the confusion (on my behalf). After re-reading your post, it makes perfect sense.

Okay, so if I were to drill a small relief hole in the MPA-3, which would allow the pressure to vent when the actuator was at the maximum level (or workable level) in the cylinder, then the MPA-3 should vent and make the air circuit a 3 way.

I have enough room in the Logic frame to allow for a little forward/backward adjustment of the MPA3, so maybe that is my solution.

How well do you think your air input mod (newly placed air nipple) will hold up under moderate use? Do you think that the threads will hold up considering that the plastic is a little thin there?

I emailed YDNA and posted a link to your mod. He was impressed and said it looks like it will work fine.

You've done great work. Thanks.

Will you be making a thread with picutures and such when your finished to maybe be used as a guide for other people who want to make IonMags (Gah... ionMag sounds so wrong. I suggest it be called an iMag instead).

[Scott Hudnall]

Will you be making a thread with picutures and such when your finished to maybe be used as a guide for other people who want to make IonMags (Gah... ionMag sounds so wrong. I suggest it be called an iMag instead).

I will be posting pics, etc, as I go. I'm a day or so stalled waiting on some final parts from clippard. Don't dispair!!!!

There will be a slight difference in the solenoid mod between mine and Nicad's.

His air inlet is at the bottom of the solenoid where the he added the nipple. the spring keeps tension against the air input to keep it from leaking. The top "T" is the vent allowing the line to depressurize. The original output on the side is still the output he's using to run the MPA-3 actuator.

My mod will be to CAP one side of the "T", use the other side as an input (to push the plunger down) and use the air nipple on the side as an air input also. No mods will be done to the plunger. an air nipple will be added to the original vent on the solenoid. Of course, that makes it's a 2way without a vent, right? I will be adding a small line vent next to the MPA3 to allow the line to depressurize, which will make the circuit a 3 way normally closed circuit. Essentially, less of a mod to the solenoid than Nicad's, but should accomplish the same.

I realize that those 2 mods are kind of hard to follow without having the solenoid in your hand and knowing exactly how the air flow works and solenoid works.

With the Vertical Logic frame, which I understand are no longer being made, the board and solenoid will fit in it's original configuration, with 9v battery beneath it, with only very minor mods to the frame.

I'm anxious to get started and am awaiting the additional parts, that's all.

I will have a few extra air fiting parts and hose left over. I'll post them for sale when the project is done, identifying where I used them, etc.

I liked the term IONized 'mag......but really am taking a liking to the term "iMag".

[Scott Hudnall]

Okay...I just posted that last response and the door bell rang....UPS dropped me a box with the parts. Don't expect pics tonight....maybe in the next few days. Will be getting much of it done this weekend.

Now...it only took nicad 15 minutes to do the mod.

Uhm....I'm not nicad and don't have his tools.

[Pyroboy597]

iMag pwns.

[nicad]

Scott-
I am not superman or anything..
I am the type that takes everyting apart (aka: "break") to see how it works.. and have been since I was 3-4yrs old (or so they tell me).
The last 13 years I have targeted paintball with that "research and destroy" obsession.

Definitely keep us all updated with your progress..!

[Scott Hudnall]

Scott-
I am not superman or anything..
I am the type that takes everyting apart (aka: "break") to see how it works.. and have been since I was 3-4yrs old (or so they tell me).
The last 13 years I have targeted paintball with that "research and destroy" obsession.

Definitely keep us all updated with your progress..!

Nicad - without your early input in this project (on this thread) it would have been abandoned long ago. I did finally figure out the solenoid input/output problem, but your mod with the vent through the "T" was the biggest help. While I'm not going to configure my air flow exactly like that, the realization that the vent could be before the MPA3 was huge.

I'll be getting started this weekend, will take pics all along the way.

cheers, my friend!

[Scott Hudnall]

Here's an update!

I've got the complete air circuit done with the solenoid "mod". My "mod", not Nicad's.

This effectively proves there's 2 workable "mods" with the ION board and solenoid.

I'll post pics this weekend. Can't right now due to time constraints.

I've got the MPA3 working beautifully and it's even rockin' in the ION "ramping" mode.

I did not screw an air nipple through the bottom of the solenoid. I made, essentially, a plastic manifold with an air nipple in it, attached it to the bottom of the 'noid housing at the original vent site, and am using that to drive the MPA3. Works great. That allowed me to maintain the original plunger seat in the solenoid housing.

This is getting very very cool.

It's not, of course, mounted in a frame yet. That's the next step. But it's a complete air circuit, laid out on my counter top, working beatifully.

Here's to the iMag.

[Skoad]

very cool

[FinchMan]

Here's an update!

I've got the complete air circuit done with the solenoid "mod". My "mod", not Nicad's.

This effectively proves there's 2 workable "mods" with the ION board and solenoid.

I'll post pics this weekend. Can't right now due to time constraints.

I've got the MPA3 working beautifully and it's even rockin' in the ION "ramping" mode.

I did not screw an air nipple through the bottom of the solenoid. I made, essentially, a plastic manifold with an air nipple in it, attached it to the bottom of the 'noid housing at the original vent site, and am using that to drive the MPA3. Works great. That allowed me to maintain the original plunger seat in the solenoid housing.

This is getting very very cool.

It's not, of course, mounted in a frame yet. That's the next step. But it's a complete air circuit, laid out on my counter top, working beatifully.

Here's to the iMag.

man, that sounds awesome so far.

Once it's done, it should be the cheapest electropneumatic mod by far, and it'll be capable of eyes too.

[race]

new to mags

whats a mpa-3 and ware do you get them im up for a try on this one