IONized 'Mag Pneu-frame?

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  • neppo1345
    I Will Eat Your Children..
    • Oct 2005
    • 1913

    #16
    Yeah...you can disable the eyes...but why not use them?

    and I'm pretty sure you can adjust the dwell...not sure though, I know you can with the blackheart...

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    • temps
      starcraft?
      • Aug 2002
      • 546

      #17
      Yes you can adjust the dwell.

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      • temps
        starcraft?
        • Aug 2002
        • 546

        #18
        Originally posted by neppo1345
        You could simply desolder the swith and solder it to another microswitch...and by simply I mean very carefully and delicately...
        Is this possible?

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        • neppo1345
          I Will Eat Your Children..
          • Oct 2005
          • 1913

          #19
          Originally posted by temps
          Is this possible?
          Having never seen an ION board...I'm not entirely sure, but I would -assume- that the switch is simply soldered to the board like anything else is attached, and If it is, there's no reason why you couldn't de solder it and solder wire leads in it's place...

          I've done on other electronics...but never a pb gun

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          • Scott Hudnall
            "I am my kids Dad"
            • Mar 2004
            • 598

            #20
            Originally posted by BigEvil
            You are a genius my friend. Good thinking. It wont be simple, but theoretically it should work.


            ahhhummm....thanks my friend.

            I wonder if SP sells the stock ION board/solenoid replacement part? price? No reason a stock ion board wouldn't work just as well. I don't really care about the different tournament setting stuff....just the semi-automode.
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            • Skoad
              Registered User
              • Feb 2002
              • 3265

              #21
              I don't think they sell them just yet. I've seen them on a few online stores but without a price listed. However if you just do a little searching on pbnation you can find a stock getup for ~$50.

              I believe all the boards, including the stock one, use the same solenoid.

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              • Scott Hudnall
                "I am my kids Dad"
                • Mar 2004
                • 598

                #22
                there happens to be 2 stock ion boards for sale in the buy/sell misc items threads. I'm gonna try it.
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                • Arstron
                  fusionowners.org

                  • Mar 2005
                  • 2347

                  #23
                  or you could use a tboard for only $80

                  Fitting the board, 9v batter, and an MPA-3 in a mag frame would prove to be a challenge, but if you can it should work pretty good. it would be quite a bit of over kill as well, you would only need one hose as the mpa-3 uses a spring return and not air return.

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                  • Pyroboy597
                    We need more room for titl
                    • May 2004
                    • 518

                    #24
                    Originally posted by BigEvil
                    I just checked out the ion manual on Smartparts website. This looks like it will work, but with out one ni my hands to judge the size its really tough to tell for sure.

                    One question I have about that board is, can you disable the eyes? Also, if you really wanted to go all out, you could replace that board with something like a Morlock for a little added flexability. Im not sure if you can adjust the dwell on that ION board so if anyone knows for sure please let us know. I couldnt tell you what you would need to set it at for a set up like your proposing, but I bet its shorter than the 30ms the Emags need.
                    The eyes are disabled by pressing the on/off button quickly after the gun is turned on. The dwell is also adjustable, mine is at 8ms.
                    IM SORRY AO FOR DISOBEYING YOUR SIG RULES!!!! FORGIVE ME!!!

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                    • temps
                      starcraft?
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 546

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Arstron
                      it would be quite a bit of over kill as well, you would only need one hose as the mpa-3 uses a spring return and not air return.
                      Can we plug that other hose??

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                      • neppo1345
                        I Will Eat Your Children..
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1913

                        #26
                        I don't see why not...

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                        • professor_chaos
                          ..........AO-OK..........
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 579

                          #27
                          http://www.punisherspb.com/factory-r...arts_2190.aspx good place to find a few replacement parts if you need them.

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                          • Scott Hudnall
                            "I am my kids Dad"
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 598

                            #28
                            Well....here's the set up...

                            got a Logic V2 frame.
                            got the MPA-3.
                            got air lines, etc
                            got the front LP reg....need to drill/tap the vert adapter.
                            ION board set is on it's way.


                            I'll take pics and post them as I go.




                            edit - BTW....there's a huge amount of room in the Logic V2 frame. Trigger stop, too. I don't think "fitting it in the frame" is going to be a problem. the frame is significantly wider than the Intelliframe, much deeper, too. More cut away inside than the intelliframe. I might have to take a dremel to the intelliframe-warp mount. We'll see. My only real concern at this point is positioning the board to allow for easy access to the microswitch. Of course, I may end up gently removing that switch and positioning it elsewhere. We'll see.
                            Last edited by Scott Hudnall; 01-21-2006, 08:42 PM.
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                            • donalson
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 69

                              #29
                              i'm looking into doing an e-Y framed pneumag... i'm still in the reserch phase but thats besides the point

                              as for operating pressure of the ion... 175ish is about where it likes to be... so can be higher or lower

                              senariodreams has the entire T-board setup here...


                              you can just by the noid or other odds and ends for fairly low prices... if you removed the stuff from the ion board and seperatly mounted things it would fit in the mag frame fairly easily w/ a little cleaning out of some of the parts...

                              ok back to my reserch

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                              • FinchMan
                                LVL10 classic minimag
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 459

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Scott Hudnall
                                Well....here's the set up...

                                got a Logic V2 frame.
                                got the MPA-3.
                                got air lines, etc
                                got the front LP reg....need to drill/tap the vert adapter.
                                ION board set is on it's way.


                                I'll take pics and post them as I go.




                                edit - BTW....there's a huge amount of room in the Logic V2 frame. Trigger stop, too. I don't think "fitting it in the frame" is going to be a problem. the frame is significantly wider than the Intelliframe, much deeper, too. More cut away inside than the intelliframe. I might have to take a dremel to the intelliframe-warp mount. We'll see. My only real concern at this point is positioning the board to allow for easy access to the microswitch. Of course, I may end up gently removing that switch and positioning it elsewhere. We'll see.

                                I like this idea, I can't wait to see if it works out successfully. Eventually you could even put in eyes if you wanted to.

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