IONized 'Mag Pneu-frame?

[omegaredghost]

ok im going to take a shot at this thing to. doing it differntly than the previous ways maby. insted of moding the ion noid or useing the vent to power a mpa-3. what im going to try is running the constant air into a smav-3 and the out to a mpa-3 to trip the sear ok. then run the air that drops in and out when the noid is triped/trigger pulled to another mpa-3 that has the vent on it seald. this way it is aired forward until fired. couple the mpa-3 and the smav-3 together so that when air is going to the map-3 it will have closed the air off that is coming into the smav-3 basicly being in wating to shoot . then when you activate the noid/pull the trigger the air going to the mpa-3/smav-3 coupling will vent like it would in a ion. opening the smav-3 and allowing the air to trigger the map-3 at the sear in turn fireing the marker. ok what do you all think. if i know how to put a drawing on here i would. maby someone can help me with that

[PnueMagger]

wow. that's complex. Good luck.

[craltal]

you lost me in there, but if you email the drawing, i'll post it up for you.

carl.fullerton"at"gmail"dot"com

just replace the quotes...

[Pneumagger]

why do people put silly things in ther email addresses - like spaces/dashes/quotes?

[craltal]

why do people put silly things in ther email addresses - like spaces/dashes/quotes?

so bots can't steal them and end up sending spam...

[craltal]

[personman]

That's rather impractical.. It would cost alot more, and it takes up more space. Scott's rig seems to be the best option.

I just bought a stock ion board off some guy on PBN and I'm going to fool around with putting it in my Ygrip. I dont know if it will happen but its worth a try :)

[omegaredghost]

thank you craltal for youre help :)

[omegaredghost]

i am try to keep the ion internals working like they should. if they do not work like they should i can always do it scotts way and if that dont work i can do it nicad way and if that dont work then i can make a punnumatic mag all the parts are there.any which way just having fun tinkering thats what it is mostly about for me :) the only worry i have about the previous setups is useing the vent as my way of powering the map-3 as it was not desinged to do such a maner. of corse it wasnt ment to power a mag . my board is on its way and soon hopefuly my other parts to. the electrian is a nice guy for buying them in bluk for us

[blinky1041]

Wow, that is the most complex pneumatic system I've ever seen to accomplish a task so simple. Got a kinda Rube Goldberg thing going on there, thumbs up for ingenuity. If you try to do this, you'll have to change your air lines a bit. Just switch the input to the noid with the line that is attached to the mpa-3. Air enters the top of the noid at one of the metal barbs and is directed out the other metal barb and the smaller plastic barb on the side. When the trigger is pulled, the metal output will still be pressurized and the plastic barb will vent through the bottom. I'm gearing up to try this on my own, but I'm planning on using modified cocker ram mounted on the vertical asa to trip the sear. Can't wait to hear what people ask when they see that and an lpr stuck to the front of a single tube marker!

[omegaredghost]

my way is crap. i just got my board the other day and after tearing it apart it dose not work the way that i though so my way is crap. so i did it like nicad did it. works super nice easy to do. you just need a drill press set at the lowest speed a metal file not to corse and some time do take youre time. work the file back and forth with the drill press running of corse and it will slowly work it down. no lathe needed nothing special. i did turn both the stem of the T down as well as the rod on the inside. also just a helpful hint after you have drilled and taped the vent you are going to need some spacers bettwen the air nipple and the base of the vent. if it is in to far it will shut off all the air because you smushed the rod bettwen the T and the air fitting. hope this helps you all :)

[Pronby]

What happend next? Is the project dead now? Or is the Scott Tha Man just recharging his batteries?
After reading to page five or so I was sure as hell to build one myself but when I had read the whole thread I saw that no one has claimed to have build a real working iMag and then I wasn't so sure anymore.

I could still give it a try but I would like to know more about the parts.
What on earth is a MPA3 and what does it do?
What does the other parts do?
Could I also have pictures of all the nessecery parts? with names.
I bought a cheep Ion that I would love to rip apart for this cause.

I've had thoughts of getting an E-Mag but an iMag would be more expensive. But it would also be cooler.

/Pronby

[personman]

I did it kind of like scott (I think thats his name, i cant remember) and I still havent finished. Its hard to get enough flow out of the exaust port of the ion board. I think I'm going to have to either modify the core or the actual plastic inside the solenoid. I've already bored out the banjo fitting and the exaust port quite a bit. I think the bottleneck is the core.
Then again, something else could be wrong with my whole pneumatic circuit. Anyway I dont have the time to mess with it right now, school's killin' me.

[Pronby]

So it sounds like it's more to do then what Scott and others have done. Too bad. I might have found another way though, but then it's not pneumatic, it's pure electric. But that might be much easier.
Well, whos school does not kill you?

[Scott Hudnall]

I'm back with the project again. Seriously....it is almost done. I'll post more when it's completed. I haven't found problems with the flow from the ION exhaust port, is sufficient to run the MPA3 even in ramping mode.

Perhaps you are using too small of air nipple/hose to allow for sufficient flow? Can't really say, and at this point I don't recall the size I'm using.

Thanks. In the end, my iMAG will look like an Emag with a 90 degree frame. Someone asked me at the field if it was an angel frame on an emag. hmmm.....funny......it's just the frame in the pictures earlier in this thread. I'm hiding the LPR and 9v in the Emag battery pack.