Why not restart production on E-Mags and X-Mags?

[Oregon_pb_]

Get me .dxf files and I'll machine a X mag tomorrow. :)

I am on a search for a Karta X Mag.

A xmag with a karta body would be a karta mag wouldn't it? The internals of the x and emags are the same aside from eyes, thus the only difference is the body? You remove the body and wouldn't you take away the name Xmag?

[kabley]

A xmag with a karta body would be a karta mag wouldn't it? The internals of the x and emags are the same aside from eyes, thus the only difference is the body? You remove the body and wouldn't you take away the name Xmag?

Karta Mag; Karta E Mag; Karta X Mag... However you want to name it, I want it!!!

p.s. I still want the .dxf files.

[questionful]

Karta Mag; Karta E Mag; Karta X Mag... However you want to name it, I want it!!!

An X-mag has a one-piece rail and body. A karta mag is any mag with a karta body and rail (or even just the body). If you want one, go buy one!

[kabley]

An X-mag has a one-piece rail and body. A karta mag is any mag with a karta body and rail (or even just the body). If you want one, go buy one!

I've been hitting the forums these last couple of days. I forgot how much I love Mags!! I have always wanted a X Mag; then I saw the Karta body and rail. So I figured if someone had the one I want, I'd make an offer. But I'll be damed if anyone is interested in selling one!!! Once you find the one you want, you're married to it!

[questionful]

I've been hitting the forums these last couple of days. I forgot how much I love Mags!! I have always wanted a X Mag; then I saw the Karta body and rail. So I figured if someone had the one I want, I'd make an offer. But I'll be damed if anyone is interested in selling one!!! Once you find the one you want, you're married to it!

Yep. Which is why I think more should be made! But in order for this to be profitable, the mag market needs to be bigger. So if AGD put some money into some sick advertising (I bet there are graphic designer maggots and maggots in the advertising business that would be more than willing to help), it would be easier for people/companies to make aftermarket parts for the mag.

[MoeMag]

I still want the .dxf files.

Your not the only one. I would rather have an *.Iges file tho.

[sffudapparel]

In my opinion, AGD needs to take a lesson from Ford. The mustang was a classic muscle car. In order to make it cheaper and more accessible to the general market, a v6 was introduced, abandoning the muscle car mentality and going with something a little more "reserved". Within years, the mustang became known as a "woman's car" and lost all prestige it used to hold.

AGD has prestige right now. They're rare machines that don't show themselves very often, but when the do, people take notice. AGD sacrificed nothing in order to make some of the finest (xmag is THE finest) guns ever made. Changing now to make money would damage their name more than it would help their pocket books.

The motto reads "because quality always shoots straight" not "quality always shoots straight unless it's our entry level marker"

[Oregon_pb_]

i've contemplated putting my Karta emag (with emax valve) up for sale a couple times but always talked myself out of it. They are just too unique to sell. I prefer shooting my mech mag over the karta emag, but none the less I must keep both. For the time being....

In the end I may sell the Karta and buy a Xmag again


As for AGD making markers again, I hope they don't. Right now I use my mag and know i'm part of a unique "group". If they became popular again it would lose the appeal it has (to me anyway) and I'd probably switch over to AKA markers 100%. Right now I'm about 40% AGD 45% AKA and 15% Cyborg as far as guns I prefer to shoot when I play. I own a multiple of each, plus tons more.

[Hilltop Customs]

the single problem with mags is they were made right the first time.....and agd didnt decieve customers by making "improvements" every year to increase sales.

[maniacmechanic]

I've been hitting the forums these last couple of days. I forgot how much I love Mags!! I have always wanted a X Mag; then I saw the Karta body and rail. So I figured if someone had the one I want, I'd make an offer. But I'll be damed if anyone is interested in selling one!!! Once you find the one you want, you're married to it!

Kartas are out there you just have to hold onto your cash & have some patience , the one's with no hole rails are selling for about 550 to 600 now since DW changed thier machining prices
X MagTerror is cutting some nice looking body rail combos now to at what I consider fair prices
As far as AGD doing something , personally I don't think it will happen , some get on this forum & cry that they want AGD to come up with new ideas & start building markers again , but look at it this way , look & see how many members are on this forum then look & see how many regular posters there are , quite a difference in that number
I've seen a lot of posts with guys talking about thier mag taking a backseat to thier new cheaper e marker , thier Mag goes in the gearbag as a back up or loaner , even a lot of the guys I consider hardcore Maggers have different markers in thier gearbar alongside thier Mags , ( now most of these are not run of the mill markers , but niche markers also )
at this point i'm still all Mag & a Phantom & and I like the company (AGD ) just the way it is , I can still get all my small parts from them & use aftermarket manufacturesfor the big stuff

[chinstrap]

I'd say the best idea presented here is that of simply producing new bodies. The mechanics work fine for the demographic that mags appeal to, so no need to change anything.

Reading through the posts, I did have one idea though:

Would it be possible to integrate a mechanical agitation system kind of like Tippmann's Cyclone, but instead of using gas from the tank/excess gas, would use the movement of the bolt releasing and/or resetting to cycle? I doubt anyone holds a patent on something like that, since it would require the automag bolt mechanics to function.

If this could be accomplished without too much of a price increase, it would be in direct competition with the RTed X-7s, and subsequently appeal to roughly the same demographic, especially if the body were like a Tac One with an integrated telescoping stock (kind of like that BT/Mini thing that's coming out) or perhaps just had the ability to take a line of different stocks made for it.

Fact is, it looks like the money is going to the woods/scenario market and AGD would really clean up, given the reliability, performance and ease of maintainance of their markers. Those are the three reasons that, whenever I think about trying something new from the electro camp, I ultimately don't.

More than anything else, I would LOVE a simple mechanical agitated loading system (not the Q-loader) to go with my simple mechanical marker.

[pito189]

Look at the difference, the 90s called they want their web design back.



AGD doesn't need to do anything revolutionary just join the 21st century. Does anyone actually still use a single trigger on their mag? Have you ever shot one of those triggers they are awful. Just update everything it can't be that much more expensive.

edit: look at the tac, much more attractive of an offering than that minimag or pro classic.

[ZEROte]

I agree. With the current leadership (cool with the "status quo")of the company there will be a continuation of the same old excuses.

I sold one of my mags and purchased a rail. A very good investiment.

One year from now the company will still be doing the same thing. Nothing!

i third this notion. i was very loyal to agd back in the day but other things came calling and took me away.

on the flip side though. i would love to own a custom milled devil-type mag. that has a tadao board in it.

[BigEvil]

So, with all of these great ideas, griping, and critiquing, who will be the first to step up and either pay the legal fees to fight (and hopefully win) a battle with Smart Parts over electro licensing, OR, pay them the money they want for a license? Or is the general consensus that AGD just make mechs?

While you are at it, who who will pony up the investment capital needed to produce an inventory? R&D? (So forth and so on)

If there were truckloads of cash to be made in this market, the after market would be filling the gaps created by the manufacturer. As we can see with the Pneu-mag situation, and by the lack of 'modern' after market bolt on electro frames, the mag market must not be very lucrative. It's nice for the small guys who want to make parts, but you dont see companies like Empire or Hybrid running out to make parts for us anymore do we?

Quite frankly, short of anything revolutionary I am very happy with the status quo. I am thrilled to still be able to purchase replacement parts to keep all my mags up and running and hope to be able to for a long time.

And with as many people "Mag-whoring" as there are, the ones I own are guaranteed to maintain their value, while all the new stuff sells for 1/3rd its price a year after it comes out.

[Jaan]

Look at the difference, the 90s called they want their web design back.

Reality called; web sites that use all Flash suck.