New Proto Slug Body PICS!!!!

[steveg]

I second Manike's suggestion of a simplified extreme body
I personally would never buy the slug tube,because
for me, I'd like to get rid of the rail.

Just in case my intro wasn't clear, this body is meant to be cut up by the end user or by aftermarket customizers. We will make them custom too, we just need some feedback from you on how to do it. Please photoshop the images and post your results. "AGD"

To be of interest to me, an extrusion with barrel threads
at the front, sear slot and axle pin/bolt hole on the
bottom, spring seat inside and back machined for the valve.
the rest could be just an rectangular extrusion,that
could be assembed with grip, barrel and valve, and be
funtional as-is.

I'm guessing that the slug would be an extrusion to begin
with as well.

Manike come on out of the 5 axis cloud for a while
4 side work can be done with a simple inexpense(for cnc)
index table.

There is no shame in outsourcing you machining work, the
world is full of competent machine shops.
I'm almost positive thats how AGD does it now.

[manike]

Originally posted by steveg
To be of interest to me, an extrusion with barrel threads
at the front, sear slot and axle pin/bolt hole on the
bottom, spring seat inside and back machined for the valve.
the rest could be just an rectangular extrusion,that
could be assembed with grip, barrel and valve, and be
funtional as-is.

That wouldn't be too hard to achieve from what we have now. But is it what the market wants and will it retrofit to enough guns... I'm not sure why it wouldn't...

Originally posted by steveg
Manike come on out of the 5 axis cloud for a while
4 side work can be done with a simple inexpense(for cnc)
index table.

Absolutely it can. As I stated in my post, but to do may of those designs quickly and cost effectively you need continuous 4 axis. Which is not so simple or inexpensive as 4 sided. 4 sided work with an indexing table to cut many of those designs would require a ball tool and a fine step over and lots of time. With a continuous 4 axis mill and a toroidal cutter, I could make them in minutes if not seconds.

This was supposed to be a cheap option remember. I'm not sure it is.

manike

[steveg]

With a continuous 4 axis mill and a toroidal cutter, I could make them in minutes if not seconds.

In Canada alone there are probably +1000 4 axis continous
horizontal machining centers, never mind verticals, I
wouldn't ever care to guess how many in the US, the usual
ratio is about 10-1.

As Tom has stated there are 3 intended buyers
Me, an individual were only time and talent are relevant.
people can and do(not me ) remarkable things with files
dremel tools and handdrills.

Aftermarket, were what they do needs to appeal sufficient
to someone to pay the price.

And finally AGD customs. Only Tom knows how many he wants to make.


As always it's a matter of quantity, one's or two's would
be astronomical 100's expensive, 1000's reasonable (to answer einhander619's JT question

[luke]

in taking away metal from a round object spinning around, it would take metal off everywhere, right?

This was my first question, and from what I've seen it hasn't been answered yet.

I don't see how these bodies can be spun on a lath. Like Dave said, if they are, the design would circle the entire body, they would not match a standard body rail. (?)

Wouldn't ALL the work have to be done on a mill?

[steveg]

As always a picture is worth etc~

[shartley]

[FutureMagOwner]

am i the only one who would think it would look kinda cool with the old rt style sceme to it?

[steveg]

Shartley The short answer is yes it can be done but It's a rare and specialized lathe (that means VERY expensive)

Now thinking out side of the (machining center) box modern
cnc lathes can be had with milling cutters in addition to turning tools.
as you are familiar with wood lathes and
i'd guess woodworking, imagine a router instead of a point
or chisel to remove the wood (I wouldn't be suprised if this
is how gun stock lathes work, having never seen one)

This type of lathe allows you too, first, do any turning you
want and then drill, tap, mill, etc.

most are limited to just the centerline but some (yup again
expensive) can move about 25mm above and below the centerline
We could even use one of manike's toroid cutters.

Finally as I've pointed out It's not necessary for someone
like AGD to own these machines as there are 1000's of "job shops"
around the world that have various cnc, manual and
automatic machinery, that sell their machining services
just as there are people who sell there programming services

[shartley]

Originally posted by steveg
Shartley The short answer is yes it can be done but It's a rare and specialized lathe (that means VERY expensive)

Now thinking out side of the (machining center) box modern
cnc lathes can be had with milling cutters in addition to turning tools.
as you are familiar with wood lathes and
i'd guess woodworking, imagine a router instead of a point
or chisel to remove the wood (I wouldn't be suprised if this
is how gun stock lathes work, having never seen one)

This type of lathe allows you too, first, do any turning you
want and then drill, tap, mill, etc.

most are limited to just the centerline but some (yup again
expensive) can move about 25mm above and below the centerline
We could even use one of manike's toroid cutters.

Finally as I've pointed out It's not necessary for someone
like AGD to own these machines as there are 1000's of "job shops"
around the world that have various cnc, manual and
automatic machinery, that sell their machining services
just as there are people who sell there programming services

[Panzerr]

Originally posted by manike


That wouldn't be too hard to achieve from what we have now. But is it what the market wants and will it retrofit to enough guns... I'm not sure why it wouldn't...

An extreme body that would retrofit onto any mag would rock!

[shartley]

Originally posted by Panzerr


An extreme body that would retrofit onto any mag would rock!

Yes, and we have already asked that it be done. I hope that this new project does not make Tom forget.

[Jason Reed]

how do i photo shop like that i have photoshop 7.0 but i have really never used it it can ya'll give me some teachin'

[j.t.]

I learned to use Photoshop just by playing around with it alot. After a while you start to become familiar with the features and how to use them.

Im still not that great at it though.

You could try downloading a manual or tutorial too.

[aaron_mag]

Originally posted by shartley

Yes, and we have already asked that it be done. I hope that this new project does not make Tom forget.

Anyone else starting to think that Tom just starts these Protobody posts to torture us? Here look at this thing...what do you think? We all scream we want it then the post disappears. A couple of month later a new thread appears....what do you think about this? Carve away!

He's an evil mad scientist I tell you! He is doing a psychological experiment to publish in a paper....

[Timmee]

Originally posted by FutureMagOwner
am i the only one who would think it would look kinda cool with the old rt style sceme to it?

Speaking of the RT, would this body also be able to be retrofitted to the old school RT?