Just my 2 cents.. If there is any doubt that the product will performe flawlessly.. DO NOT RELEASE IT! Period. It makes better business sense in the long run not to chance regression back to the "Mags are paint blenders" days. Having worked for companies that released products before they were ready for market and felt the repurcussions from it it is not a wise idea. On a side note, BETA TEST... and not to select few tourny players. Contact fields and find out if they have any regular mag owners who might be willing to install this trigger on a marker and not only provide feed back but work it with general Rec-ball players and find the products strengths and weeknesses. I have shot about every marker out there but I love my Mags and even though I would love to have a mech trigger that would feel like an electro, I would not want AGD to release it if there was even the slightest possibility that it could cause problems which might ruin there reputation. :)
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I can/will learn to use the trigger.
I am looking at both sides of the issue and a lot of valid points are being made. If I can be selfish for a moment, I want one. If the project gets scrapped, put the blueprints online so we can have them made ourselves, there wouldnt be a problem with AGDs rep and for sure only die hards would have one, the local noobs arent taking prints to a machine shop, thats for sure. I surely dont want to hurt AGD at all, and I also want this trigger in my gun.
I have been out of town since Tom made his post and was in the dark, but I almost called the local shop and had them order me an RTpro so I would have time to mill the rail and have the gun annoed before the trigger comes out at IAO (or did that change too). I'm sure glad I waited until I got home, I don't want to buy an RTpro if this trigger gets scrapped. Now I'm just going to wait for a final word.
You could always do a small run for us "die hards" make it a pay-in-full pre-order and make enough to cover that and see how it goes from there. You wouldnt get stiffed for money because everybody will have already paid. Call it a beta test so we are warned in advance of the potential for bugs and your concience is free and clear.
Well, thats my take on it.
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That is a great idea Pay for Preorder is a great deal. Also whay if the reactivity was adjustable? That would fix the issue with tourney play right?Gunslingers , your source for upgrades and modifications
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well i've been saying this all along about making it adjustable...(and im not the only one)Originally posted by Mutilus
That is a great idea Pay for Preorder is a great deal. Also whay if the reactivity was adjustable? That would fix the issue with tourney play right?
but Tom's at D-day... so when he gets back maybe we'll hear more in the way of how he feels about it
hopefully, at the very least, he'll atleast do a small production run of them...i'll prepay in full...(and i still have to find someone to drill my valve)TheDuelist "The problem is that Tom has developed the VW Beetle of the paintball industry. It's almost too good to change and far too reliable."Comment
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i thought i had heard of successful attempts while using an X-Valve, or retro valve, and X-Valves are tournament legal because it is not the trigger which is reactive but rather the valve. So if this is true what seems to be the problem?Comment
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I agree with Tremis. A test run is a very good idea. And possibly the best if AGD still intends on making this thing work.
quote Tremis-You could always do a small run for us "die hards" make it a pay-in-full pre-order and make enough to cover that and see how it goes from there. You wouldnt get stiffed for money because everybody will have already paid. Call it a beta test so we are warned in advance of the potential for bugs and your concience is free and clear.Comment
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"Quality Always Shoots Straight" is the way to be. If it isn't quality, don't release it. As much as I want it NOW and know I could shoot it, don't release until it is fool proof. A BETA TEST is fine, so long as it is marketed that way. Plenty of companies do this and I don't feel user testing would hurt the mags image.Even the best-laid plans don't withstand the first five minutes of combat.
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I know that to be real fast with any trigger takes alot of pratice. I think this kit should come seperatly or if it is included with the x-valve then it should have the original X-valve replacement parts. That way, if the player still have not learned how to shoot right but wanted to play they still could without chuffing. When they were done playing, they could switch back for more trigger pratice. Either way I hope Tom will let us know the status of the trigger that way I can buy my x-valve without wondering if I missed out on an even better deal.
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I'm in the same boat, although I do want a colored valve. :)Originally posted by David9862
I know that to be real fast with any trigger takes alot of pratice. I think this kit should come seperatly or if it is included with the x-valve then it should have the original X-valve replacement parts. That way, if the player still have not learned how to shoot right but wanted to play they still could without chuffing. When they were done playing, they could switch back for more trigger pratice. Either way I hope Tom will let us know the status of the trigger that way I can buy my x-valve without wondering if I missed out on an even better deal.
Anyone have any idea of what the new design is going to be? I know Tom said it is going to be standard on all xvalves..emag, xmag, etc.Dynaflow for sale, PM ME!
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