AGD really let me down at PSP (long)

[lamby]

The markers should not have been able to be disqualified in the first place. That is why I said it is not a tourney level gun the way it sits.

Then I guess I should have made note of those other manufacturers markers that were disqualified last year at World Cup so we can tell them they are responsible for that now?

[PzYcO]

Originally posted by lamby

Only the 3 emags died at different times (three for three, that is 100% failure rate in the rain). The angels performed flawlessly all day, even in the rain. (except for the warps which failed (allowed water to get to the balls and make them swell and jam in the feed tube this was sota expected as paintballs do not like to be wet) and had to be removed when it started raining)

As stated before. Take out the board and replace/put back, and NOT DO IT PROPERLY, ON ANY MARKER will make it not work correctly. Use common sense. If the rain got in the warp tube, Also, That is not the warp's fault, if you got rain in your "Halo" or "Revvy" are you going to go complain to Oddssey or VL that you got water in your loader and the paintballs got swelled and didnt work? NO! Jesus christ, i just want to smack the stupid out of you.

[Dayspring]

Gonna have to disagree with you on that one. Unless the judge can make it bounce, it's totally legal. I've had mine for going on a year and have yet to be called for bounce and I'm running considerably more into the gun than you are (pressure wise).

Originally posted by lamby


I think you are right, but it does not matter either, there should not have been an option for him to make this "mistake" in enforcing the rules. The markers should not have been able to be disqualified in the first place. That is why I said it is not a tourney level gun the way it sits

[hitech]

Sorry you were unfairly "singled" out, but that's what happened. Other markers "ramp up" the dwell during rapid fire. How do you chrono that? If tournaments are concerned with increasing fps during rapid fire then they need a way to chrono during rapid fire. It's not the marker's fault. It's not a design flaw. It is the refs fault. The problem is that AGD has published EXACTLY how the emag works. Those with ramped dwell are a little quieter about it.

[cphilip]

Sorry accidently edited yours when I ment to reply to it. Dooh!

[lamby]

psyco, what the heck are you talking about? this thread has nothing to do with me removing the board (which I did not do)I did not even remove the grips. I still had silicone on the hall effect holder and on the grips. The only place that I did not re-silicone was the frame to the rail, and rail to the tube.

I expected that the warps would not work in the rain as they are not designed to be water tight even though I tried to silicone that too. My revvie was also siliconed but not designed to be water tight (I am not *****ing about this either) If anything using a water soluble paintball in the rain is stupid in itself.

Dont get me wrong, The warp feed RULES!! (I felt way too loose when I was not running mine)

[lamby]

hitech:
Thank you. I agree that we were bagged and prob singled out but what can I do? the Angels were not screwed with only the Emags. Do you see why I am upset about this, and why I think it is AGDs fault? I know it was not my fault. Maybe the Ref, Maybe the marker but anyway there was nothing I could do about it.

phillip:
You can edit my posts when ever you want

[TheTramp]

Like some others have said, I think your problems came not from the E-Mag itself but from a ref that obviously has some sort of problem with Mags.

It seems to me that he was going to try and get your E-Mags disqualified however he could. You came with the trigger bounce "problem" solved so he tried to get you for not having them (1st I've ever heard of this tactic).

Why couldn't they just fire a string of quick shots over the crono and see what the last, and supposedly highest, shot was?

[hitech]

Originally posted by lamby
Do you see why I am upset about this...

Sure. I'd be pissed too! Actually, I'd be far more than just pissed!

Originally posted by lamby
...and why I think it is AGDs fault?

That's the part I don't get. The rules are not being applied evenly to all markers. Why would that be the manufactures fault? The only "fault" of AGD's is that they are open and honest about how their markers work. Other manufactures are not. The real issue is that if they want to chrono a marker in rapid fire then that is what they need to do.

BTW, this is a recent development, as I understand it. Because of this I believe AGD is working on a solution that will remove the "reactivity" and solve the problem. It's not fixing a design flaw, but instead it's dealing with questionable rules enforcement.

[lamby]

Why couldn't they just fire a string of quick shots over the crono and see what the last, and supposedly highest, shot was?

I sugested that to him in the 5 min agueement that I had with the chrono ref. It was a pain in the rear. I am just glad it was only at the shocktech field. There were fields that you chrono your own marker. Only the one guy was busting my nuts and made my life hell. I am happy with the emag without the trigger pin in. I do not like to have the chance of being disqualified though. Once the new on/off is supplied I can use my marker again. Until then, I can not take that risk.

[lamby]

I have a question..

when you quote someone how do you get the "originally posted by XXXXX" line in there?

all I can get is what I get from typing "

the quote

" am I doing it wrong?

Thanks

[FalconGuy016]

I dont know why some of you are so fiercly opposing lamby, almost blindly. You seem as if you are doing it just for the loyalty of AGD, with a few facts. I dont totaly agree ewith lamby, sure, but Im not about to go do what you guys did. He is right on many levels

[hitech]

Click on the QUOTE button in the post you wish to quote and you will get the correct format. Here is what it give you ([ replaced with { and ] replaced with } ):


{QUOTE}{i}Originally posted by lamby {/i}
{B}I have a question..
{/B}{/QUOTE}

[lamby]

cool, thank you hitech!!!!

[Muzikman]

This is why Manike was trying to make (and I think he did it successfully) a selector switch that could be locked into Emode. The gun is fully legal in manual mode, the gun is fully legal in Emode, it's hybrid mode that has the problems. What you need to do is make it so that it can be chonoed in Manual mode and then locked into E mode. I am not sure if this would pass the refs or not, but it seems to be the best solution. Ultimately what you need an a power switch built into the selector switch so that if it's in Emode it disabled the trigger rod (the way current Emode works), and when you flip it to manual it also cuts the power so that the HES quits working.

As for water in the gun. I have played in some serious rain and the only thing I have ever siliconed was the grip panels to the frame. I have never had a board fry because of rain, but I have had a board just plain fry.