Originally posted by punkncat
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thats probably the requires a lot of $$$"The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"
Alway Remember *343*
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Originally posted by fire1811
Methinks the fighting them would be the $$$$ issue. Why would it cost a lot to offer them a slice of your pie?
Even if they have no grounds for this "legal issue" it would still take a large amount of time , lawyers , and money to sort it all out.
The longer this product takes to make it to the market , the less chance it will be successful. Faster markers are being made. The face of paintball is changing. Its either cut losses and scrap the whole thing , or cut a deal and make something on all this time and effort. Interested customers aren't going to wait indefinately on the promise of this coming out someday.Comment
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Let it go...I know you guys want to see this thing out and all that. But I am sure once there is info he will post it. It wont magically apear if you keep posting here.
Just chill out and wait.
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Dang....
Well, for what it's worth, I'd boycot Pro Team if I thought they even made anything worth boycoting...
Never bought anything from them anyway....Comment
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why would you boycott proteam? if they invented it first then they invented it first
if its the same design then there is nothing to be upset with them about."The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"
Alway Remember *343*
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Ya i will have to have oneComment
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just a thought
So ProTeam is claiming they own all pnematic triggers....
Does this sound familar to something else that happend not to long ago, SMART PARTS
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Patent #6,802,305
for the lazy, download the pdf version (all 11 pages) of it from me:
there's another interesting one that was issued the same day:
Before you condemn them, read. They applied in 2001. I admit I haven't gotten too far into it myself but I'm not going to condemn them yet.
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I really don't think this can be compared to SP (at this time), for several reasons. The first being that there are currently no mass produced markers that use this technology. Thus it is an inovation and PTP is protecting their intelectual property. Secondly the patent, as said before, was applied for over 3 years ago. PTP did not file and/or expand a patent that they had/stole in order to rape and pillage the industry.
It is my understanding that Nicad developed his sytem without the benefit of PTP's design or product so this is not a matter of reverse engineering or blatant copying (like so many of the electros of the past). This is two great minds thinking in a similar fashion. Also no one is entirely clear as to the behind the scenes dealings that Nicad and PTP are having. They could be entirely pleasant and without coerrsion.
I have great doubts that this is in any way shape or form a malicious plot by PTP to crush the hAir (I may be totally wrong), I think it is more that PTP is protecting the many years and many $$$ that have been invested in their research and development on this project.
I cannot stress enough how much you MUST watch who you accuse of what. PTP has, in my estimation, always been a legitimate and industry friendly company and to include them in the same category as Sp is as wrong as calling GWB a Nazi (no I am not pro GWB but the Nazi corrolation is absurd) That's just my opinionComment
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03-22-2004, 07:50 AM
that's the first post in this thread. While I'm sure NiCad has been working on this before that, I don't think he was working on it since 2001. (no disrespect meant towards NiCad) Therefore PTP has a right to claim that they came up with the idea first. The fact that they have been sitting on the idea for a couple of years and someone else had a similar idea doesn't mean that they can be compared to SP.
Chill out, and learn some patience. IMHO the company that brought us Micromags and enabled Warp Feeds to be used on more types of markers with their adapters and upgrades are not going to leave us high and dry. In fact I believe that they have greater manufacturing capabilities than NiCad has so it's possible that there will be more available quicker than he could handle himself. Yes, there will be a cocker version available and we'll loose the bragging rights of being the only ones able to utilize these frames, but at the end of the day as long as we have fun when we play who really gives a rat's posterior?Comment
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PTP does not have any right to do this. first of all, what i have heard is that Boston Paintball developed a pneumatic trigger a while ago, which would mean that PTP was not the first ones to develop it, and therefore has no right to the patent (i will talk to the people at Boston Paintball about this the next time i go there). Secondly, the point of patents is to ensure that people dont copy the designs of others, blatantly ripping them off. DW certainly didnt do this, and designed a different pneumatic trigger at almost the same time (maybe they designed it after PTP did, but that doesnt matter. they did not rip anyone off and designed their own product.) also, they should not be able to have a patent on this in my opinion because they are essentially patenting the concept of pneumatic triggers, instead of a specific design, which greatly hinders the advancement of technology, and they did not even invent the technology that it encorporates (regulator, ram, and 3-way). it is just like patenting the usage of electricity in paintball guns. it hinders the advancement of technology and the company patenting it did not develop what it is based off of (i.e. electricity itself, wires, resistors, etc.). if a company wanted to patent a specific design, such as Bob Long patenting the technology used in the intimidator, that is perfectly fine, but a concept should not be patented.
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IM going to patent the concept of thinking. All your minds are belong to usComment
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