Ramping is so wrong, but run away is great

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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #1

    Ramping is so wrong, but run away is great

    As a general rule AO members tend to hold the same lithmus test to different subjects on what they think is right and wrong, ok and not.

    Why is it than that one-shot one pull is the hard and fast rule in regards to ramping and anyone who thinks anything else is "cheating" or whatever they are attacked with.

    But if you see a mag in runaway mode ala Zak Vetter it becauses such a great thing.

    I think this is a major shortcoming by some of the memers of AO in being logical and consistent in there positions.

    So... why is it that there appears to be this break in logic on this subject?
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
  • mag88888
    ULE MAG
    • Oct 2004
    • 983

    #2
    its cool when zakvetter does it cause its amazingly fast but noone uses that in a game, i think. its just for show.
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    • Automaggot68

      #3
      Originally posted by Lohman446
      As a general rule AO members tend to hold the same lithmus test to different subjects on what they think is right and wrong, ok and not.

      Why is it than that one-shot one pull is the hard and fast rule in regards to ramping and anyone who thinks anything else is "cheating" or whatever they are attacked with.

      But if you see a mag in runaway mode ala Zak Vetter it becauses such a great thing.

      I think this is a major shortcoming by some of the memers of AO in being logical and consistent in there positions.

      So... why is it that there appears to be this break in logic on this subject?
      It's cool because He's Zak Vetter, and because it's on a mag.



      /end sarcasm

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      • 68magOwner
        Registered User
        • May 2003
        • 3475

        #4
        Originally posted by mag88888
        its cool when zakvetter does it cause its amazingly fast but noone uses that in a game
        no, no one hooks up a scuba to their marker on the field, but, there are vids with him using standard tanks pushing close to 20bps, and, this can/is used in game, there was jsut a post i saw a few days ago with a guy talking about how he was doing 17bps with his mech mag (by sweetspotting) which is no more legal than ramping. Its because AO'ers are partial to mags, bottom line.

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        • Carbon
          Word!
          • Jan 2003
          • 1589

          #5
          Originally posted by Lohman446
          As a general rule AO members tend to hold the same lithmus test to different subjects on what they think is right and wrong, ok and not.

          Why is it than that one-shot one pull is the hard and fast rule in regards to ramping and anyone who thinks anything else is "cheating" or whatever they are attacked with.

          But if you see a mag in runaway mode ala Zak Vetter it becauses such a great thing.

          I think this is a major shortcoming by some of the memers of AO in being logical and consistent in there positions.

          So... why is it that there appears to be this break in logic on this subject?
          Zmans vid. is a tech demo.

          ...ever in the continual search of time dilation.

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          • Automaggot68

            #6
            Originally posted by Carbon
            Zmans vid. is a tech demo.

            You shot Zak.
            In the Face.
            I love that video.

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            • Lohman446
              Useful posts: 7
              • Jun 2003
              • 9315

              #7
              Originally posted by Carbon
              Zmans vid. is a tech demo.

              Zmans video was the example, you see often enough "I just crank up the input pressure and go to town" though on here, or some such, and everyone (ok, not everyone, but you know what I mean) seems to think thats acceptable while at the same time, many of them whine about ramping.
              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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              • dolphin1823
                Former Mag Owner
                • Jan 2001
                • 127

                #8
                shooting fast on a mech marker is a skill that requires practice, even with an RT tigger. Ramping is a program that when set, you can pull the trigger 3 times quickly and 15 balls come out.

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                • Lohman446
                  Useful posts: 7
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9315

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dolphin1823
                  shooting fast on a mech marker is a skill that requires practice, even with an RT tigger. Ramping is a program that when set, you can pull the trigger 3 times quickly and 15 balls come out.
                  Shooting fast with input pressures cranked to a point to cause run-away is not a skill.... sorry
                  "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                  • dolphin1823
                    Former Mag Owner
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 127

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lohman446
                    Shooting fast with input pressures cranked to a point to cause run-away is not a skill.... sorry
                    that's hard for me, pre-set reg.

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                    • slade
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 3442

                      #11
                      cause on AO, its only cool if a mag can do it.
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                      • Automaggot68

                        #12
                        Originally posted by slade
                        cause on AO, its only cool if a mag can do it.

                        <3Colin<3

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                        • TheShark
                          Look out behind you
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 174

                          #13
                          Yes, people that sweetspot in games while denouncing ramping are hypocrites. People with this mentality no doubt exist on this board but I'd like to hope they are a very small minority. There are idiots everywhere, what can you do?

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                          • ottomobile
                            Obey me, I am ROOT
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 296

                            #14
                            Technically speaking, hitting the sweet spot on an RT isn't cheating because you are still firing one shot per one pull of the trigger and your finger still has to move for each shot fired. Sweet-spotting takes practice and is different on every marker. It takes time to develope as a skill. When I started on mags I was really slow, but each time I play I get a little faster.

                            Cheater boards require no skill use and shoot as many rounds as you want for one trigger pull. Yes, you have to reach 3-5 balls a second for ramping to engage but anyone can shoot an electro 3-5 times a second.

                            The problem most people who don't like ramping have with it isn't the shear speed, its the skill. If you can shoot 26bps in semi that's awesome, but you're a wuss if all you do is press the firebutton and let computer do all the shooting, and you are taking away from legitimate pros who worked hard to get there.

                            In my mind its no different than using steroids in Baseball to hit the ball harder. Its an unfair advantage that demeans the skills of real atheletes.

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                            • BigEvil
                              www.BigEvilOnline.com

                              • Feb 2005
                              • 9333

                              #15
                              Ramping is great. Who says otherwise?

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