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  • warbeak2099
    That is my foot!
    • Jan 2004
    • 4447

    #391
    Originally posted by Pneumagger
    This mini upsets me....

    I just spent a buttload on milling/anodizing my viking.... when I could've purchased the Mini.
    Now that certainly wasn't prudent. Especially at this juncture.

    /end of SNL reference
    //poop
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    • geekwarrior
      MIA
      • Oct 2005
      • 2581

      #392

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      • CaptainNeeda
        Questing for black sky
        • May 2005
        • 230

        #393
        Omg, is Tom going to have to take a **** on them for patent infringment?

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        • warbeak2099
          That is my foot!
          • Jan 2004
          • 4447

          #394
          Originally posted by CaptainNeeda
          Omg, is Tom going to have to take a **** on them for patent infringment?
          No it works nothing like a Mag. Are you looking at the picture??? It's a poppet.
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          • CaptainNeeda
            Questing for black sky
            • May 2005
            • 230

            #395
            I was thinking more about the on/off valve

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            • manike
              INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

              • Jan 2001
              • 3820

              #396
              Originally posted by CaptainNeeda
              with a very lvl 10 looking bolt, sry, should have been more specific
              Are you kidding? What aspects of that look like Level 10?

              There is no inside plunger to the bolt. There is no carrier or internal seal. There is no staged surface area on an inside plunger...

              I think we need to find the level 10 animation...

              Ok here it is... thanks to Andy at www.zdspb.com



              Please point out to me how that is the same? or could be possibly infringing any of Tom's patents (not even sure he has one on the Level 10 )
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              • manike
                INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                • Jan 2001
                • 3820

                #397
                Originally posted by CaptainNeeda
                I was thinking more about the on/off valve
                What on/off valve? There isn't one in the mini.

                Ahh maybe you are confused by the image of the solenoid plunger. That CAD isn't right. The plunger and face seal isn't there so I guess it could look a little like an on/off from that image. It doesn't in reality.

                This is what it looks like...







                The top face seal on the plunger is actually just a 'stopper' blocking the air from flowing out of a small hole.
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                • FSU_Paintball
                  (well, not any longer)
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 618

                  #398
                  Originally posted by geekwarrior
                  why is it that nothing can be good around here unless it has AGD on it?
                  This bears repeating. In most every topic on this forum.
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                  • CaptainNeeda
                    Questing for black sky
                    • May 2005
                    • 230

                    #399
                    Yea, thats why deleted my post on the level ten... I was WAY out of line on that...

                    It just apears to me that the system is using some sort of an on off pin to actuate the movement of the bolt. Sorry to call down the thunder on that one...

                    Originally posted by FSU_Paintball
                    This bears repeating. In most every topic on this forum.
                    Hey, I dont really appreciate that. I own SEVERAL markers that are not agd, and I love them just as much. I may love my mags, but that does not make me a fan boy!

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                    • manike
                      INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                      • Jan 2001
                      • 3820

                      #400
                      Originally posted by CaptainNeeda
                      It just apears to me that the system is using some sort of an on off pin to actuate the movement of the bolt. Sorry to call down the thunder on that one...
                      It isn't as you can see from the solenoid pictures above. The solenoid was missing from the CAD so when one of the art guys (not an engineer) made the animation he just put a 'plunger/pin' in to show how the air flow is controlled.

                      In actuality it's a solenoid plunger with a face seal on the top of it that simply works as a 'stopper' on the hole outlet coming from the gas behind the poppet. It's not a pin at all.
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                      • CaptainNeeda
                        Questing for black sky
                        • May 2005
                        • 230

                        #401
                        Originally posted by manike
                        It isn't as you can see from the solenoid pictures above. The solenoid was missing from the CAD so when one of the art guys (not an engineer) made the animation he just put a 'plunger/pin' in to show how the air flow is controlled.

                        In actuality it's a solenoid plunger with a face seal on the top of it that simply works as a 'stopper' on the hole outlet coming from the gas behind the poppet. It's not a pin at all.
                        I stand corrected.

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                        • d4m4don3
                          does anyone read my posts?
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 1228

                          #402
                          Now that I've seen the animation, and the general maintennance guide. Is it possible to use KC Trouble Free HMP on the bolt o-rings themselves? I got a few ounces of it lying around in my toolbox. Of course I have some dow and evil pus too. Has this lube been tried on the mini?

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                          • Miscue
                            Super Moderator

                            • Oct 2000
                            • 7105

                            #403
                            Cool... nice work Simon.

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                            • d4m4don3
                              does anyone read my posts?
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 1228

                              #404
                              It's coming!!

                              Local pb store I ordered from says it's suppose to come in via UPS at 2:30

                              He ain't makin guarantees though since it's the holidays and UPS gets backed up sometimes.

                              But nonetheless I hope to be playing with this badboy this weekend.

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                              • geekwarrior
                                MIA
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 2581

                                #405
                                Originally posted by d4m4don3
                                It's coming!!

                                Local pb store I ordered from says it's suppose to come in via UPS at 2:30

                                He ain't makin guarantees though since it's the holidays and UPS gets backed up sometimes.

                                But nonetheless I hope to be playing with this badboy this weekend.

                                I hate you. I don't think mine's going to be in till next week.

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