Import cars, or domestic?

[DaosBeoulve]

I'm a Viper guy. Have been since they came out, will be until I get mine (and after, I suppose=)

I love some of the classic American cars. The old Chevy's find their way into my heart, for some reason.

That being said, I own a Civic. I wouldn't trade my car for anything. She's my baby, and she always will be. And ya know the great thing--chances are, when I actually get around to getting the Audi or BMW I want, she'll still be kicking.

[dreaming]
Ferraris are nice. My canary yellow with black leather interior Spider will look nice one of these days.

My matching Viper will round out my garage. Well, along with the H1 I want.
[/dreaming]

Oh well, an Alabama boy can dream, can't he?

[Trench]

I love Feiros.... I dont know why.... I guess it is the rear engine but whatever it is... I love them...

[ShooterJM]

I too want a fiero. Just for the pure novelty factor. Need an engine swap though.

[Trench]

Yep, right on Shooter...

Moose had one and he almost put a Chevy Small block in it... Lol... I cant imagin the power that the car would have... lol...

[ShooterJM]

You can get 400 HP easily if you do it right. As long as the fiero is between a 84 and an 88 you can drop (I think) ANY small block chevy v-8 in. It's not like it's plug and play though man. To do it right you're looking at over $3K in addition to the engine costs. If you do it yourself anyway. Very very fast though.

[Trench]

Yep, gotta love it... Hehe

And i love the look of the Lamborgini look a likes... Or at least the body kits that you can put on the Fieros... Hehe...

[RT pRo AuToMaG]

Originally posted by FactsOfLife
Imports are interesting but they have no soul.


Nissan 350Z. Competant? Surely. About as intersting as a blender though.

1971 Chevelle LS6. Competant? Not really. About as interesting as a car gets though.

Any car that makes insurance agents howl in outrage gets my vote.

Imports have never made insurance agents howl. Let alone whimper.

Seriously, are you kidding me? Imports have no soul? Have you ever driven a Ferrari? Have you ever driven a Porsche? Have you ever even ridden in eiter one. The Porsche feels more like a normal car, but it's still pretty quick, and the Ferrari, there's nothing that feels and sounds quite like one.

Originally posted by *ArKfEaR*Of course i will not decline the fact that your vipers are nice looking , your ferraris, but when it all comes down. For a 250k car (ferrari 360 modena for instance) buy a supra (low miles , 2jz-gte engine or even could get a 2002 imported from japan when spending that much money) and with that amount of money you could make a 900 HP+ beast , and make it sound good (system) as well as body. Blow away all cars out there, and still have money left over for gas.

Check out these sites:

https://www.suprastore.com

https://www.i-supra.com

https://www.supraforums.com

Do some research, find out what some of the lowest to highest BPU supras run.

Enjoy crapping your pants (now you know why I got myself a supra )

Supras are nice, but I guarentee you they don't come close to blowing away all cars out there. I can name a few. Ferrari F50 GT (0-60 in 2.5sec with a top speed of over 235mph, only 2 made), McLaren F1 LM, Ferrari F40 LM, and a few others. I also guarentee you, your Supra may be faster then my F355 in a straight line, but when you hit the turns, you will either have too much power and spin, or you won't have as well of handling as I do. Cars like Ferrari's are made for the race track, not drag racing. You cannot compare the two. I'm sure if I slapped twin turbochargers on a Ferrari it would kill all of the ricers, but these cars aren't built for that.

Originally posted by SpongeBobSquarePantsIts pretty simple I will agree that with enough time money and effort you can do anything to any car. However, if you want the best STOCK car it would be a domestic. Speed wise atleast. Go pick up a mustang, cammerro, (sp) vette, etc. Then go pick up a civic, integra, etc. Now put them on the line and by far the domestics will win. The imports are not fast cars, yes with a 200 shot of nos anything can go fast, but not off the showroom floor. However a domestic can. Sure they may not handle as well or be as effiecnt as the little imports but speed wise they are faster.

Imports are the fastest cars in the world. McLaren F1, you are telling me a mustang, camero, or a vette will beat it? Lets even step down to BMW M3's and M5's. Mercedes 2003 E55. Ferrari F40, Ferrari F50. None of those have NOS and they are all faster then most domestics.

Originally posted by gtrsi9. You will never see the aftermarket make a turbo for this car.

Appearently you don't get road and track. They alreay are in the process of making aftermarket parts for this car. Turbo Rotary engines are some of the best.

I also recall someone mentioning that domestics sound much better then imports. Come to an FCA (Ferrari Club of America) event and tell me that domestics sound better. You people are so closed minded to think that the only imports are from japan and have 50 foot wings on them .
Now, what I do have to say is the new Corvettes really suprised me. They run pretty damn fast on the racetrack, very good in the corners. Theres one domestic that really impressed me.


BTW, this picture i'm posting is real, done by a member of the Ferrari Club, in a F360 Modena. He held the steering wheel with his knees and snapped the picture. He is crazy too, on the racetrack he makes his car spin on purpose, but he is an excellent driver. Look towards the back of the pic and you can see the flash reflecting off the roadsign.

[GT]

Originally posted by RT pRo AuToMaG

Appearently you don't get road and track. They alreay are in the process of making aftermarket parts for this car. Turbo Rotary engines are some of the best.

Do me a favor next time, put down the mag and pretend that you know what you are talking about . I love it, lets try the real world nextime.

I find it ironic how some people 'mag' race on message boards all the time, hell they even do it in real life. You show up to the illegals and here is joe 'car guy' that thinks his transmarobird is fast. O'well he gets taught a lesson and you make a quick 20 bucks.

The rotary sux, do you need me to repeat that, it SUX!! Sure its great when it runs but most (turbo) down here in the south dont make it past 100k miles. Someone saying they are doing something in a mag and it actually happening are 2 totaly different things.

[GT]

Originally posted by RT pRo AuToMaG


Supras are nice, but I guarentee you they don't come close to blowing away all cars out there. I can name a few. Ferrari F50 GT (0-60 in 2.5sec with a top speed of over 235mph, only 2 made), McLaren F1 LM, Ferrari F40 LM, and a few others. I also guarentee you, your Supra may be faster then my F355 in a straight line, but when you hit the turns, you will either have too much power and spin, or you won't have as well of handling as I do. Cars like Ferrari's are made for the race track, not drag racing. You cannot compare the two. I'm sure if I slapped twin turbochargers on a Ferrari it would kill all of the ricers, but these cars aren't built for that.

this is way of base. The supra was one of the few cars that is desgined for open track use. Look man I have no idea where you get your info from but next time you are at an open invite event take a look around at the supra's in attendence. they have plenty of power and handling for any little ferrari.

[shartley]

[GT]

Originally posted by shartley

[*ArKfEaR*]

Originally posted by RT pRo AuToMaG

Supras are nice, but I guarentee you they don't come close to blowing away all cars out there. I can name a few. Ferrari F50 GT (0-60 in 2.5sec with a top speed of over 235mph, only 2 made), McLaren F1 LM, Ferrari F40 LM, and a few others. I also guarentee you, your Supra may be faster then my F355 in a straight line, but when you hit the turns, you will either have too much power and spin, or you won't have as well of handling as I do. Cars like Ferrari's are made for the race track, not drag racing. You cannot compare the two. I'm sure if I slapped twin turbochargers on a Ferrari it would kill all of the ricers, but these cars aren't built for that.

Supras witht he right modifications can exeed 1000+ HP my friend. There some street supras out there with 1000 HP that will be able to hand just about any cars *** out there it needs including though. They also handle great too, if you wanna go on a track just dont have it on full boost. For the most part supras are the all around package although they are indeed quite heavy.

Now dont get me wrong that im ONLY a supra monger and do not have any interest in other cars. Ferraris are sweet but hey there made by Italians (if you are you will understand what i mean) they make the car real nice but they dont finish hence why Ferraris always break down. They are just Unrealiable cars...

Check out this bad boy (only about 70 K with everything) and it could take ever car on the street. http://www.suprastore.com/supow19blac6.html

Much much more than half as much as a ferrari and personally i love the sound of a turbo. Check this vid:

http://highboost.com/movies/hks_ti_t66.mpg

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by *ArKfEaR*
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Now dont get me wrong that im ONLY a supra monger and do not have any interest in other cars. Ferraris are sweet but hey there made by Italians (if you are you will understand what i mean)

ya and supras are jap cars... dont get started on nationality cause thats a loosing battle

[RT pRo AuToMaG]

Originally posted by *ArKfEaR*


Supras witht he right modifications can exeed 1000+ HP my friend. There some street supras out there with 1000 HP that will be able to hand just about any cars *** out there it needs including though. They also handle great too, if you wanna go on a track just dont have it on full boost. For the most part supras are the all around package although they are indeed quite heavy.

Now dont get me wrong that im ONLY a supra monger and do not have any interest in other cars. Ferraris are sweet but hey there made by Italians (if you are you will understand what i mean) they make the car real nice but they dont finish hence why Ferraris always break down. They are just Unrealiable cars...

Check out this bad boy (only about 70 K with everything) and it could take ever car on the street. http://www.suprastore.com/supow19blac6.html

Much much more than half as much as a ferrari and personally i love the sound of a turbo. Check this vid:

http://highboost.com/movies/hks_ti_t66.mpg

Um, excuse me, I am an Italian, and if you maintain a Ferrari correctly and do the scheduled maintanences, they won't break on you. Most of the guys in the Louisiana Chapter of the Ferrari Club drive their cars as daily drives. Appearently you don't know **** about Ferraris. Also, I'm sorry, but a supera may beat a Ferrari in a straight line after you modify the **** outta a supra, but then again, if I took a Ferrari and put moster turbochargers and various engine mods I'd have over 1000hp too. Horsepower won't help you through a turn. Now a Ferrari weighs about 2100 lbs. and what does a supra weigh? Around 2900-3000+ lbs probably. Put two drivers of equal skill, one in a F355 and one in a heavily modified supra, the supra will be faster in the straight line, but the Ferrari will kill it in turns.
Back to where you said Ferrari's break, why is Scrudia Ferrari one of the top teams in the Indy circuit? Not because their cars break, because they are fast. Don't give me bs that they break, because that's just talking out of your ***. Maybe older Ferrari's have had some problems, but most of the new ones (355, 360, 550, 575, and even some of the older 328's and 308's) are used as everyday drivers by many owners. I even know one guy that had an F50 as an everyday driver. They are reliable if you take care of them.

Originally posted by gtrsiDo me a favor next time, put down the mag and pretend that you know what you are talking about . I love it, lets try the real world nextime.

I find it ironic how some people 'mag' race on message boards all the time, hell they even do it in real life. You show up to the illegals and here is joe 'car guy' that thinks his transmarobird is fast. O'well he gets taught a lesson and you make a quick 20 bucks.

The rotary sux, do you need me to repeat that, it SUX!! Sure its great when it runs but most (turbo) down here in the south dont make it past 100k miles. Someone saying they are doing something in a mag and it actually happening are 2 totaly different things.

I wasn't saying the roatry engine was good based on the magazine. I was saying that aftermarket turbos are going to be available for the rx8. And yes, a rotary engine has a very short life span. On turbo rx7's you should expect to get a new engine after 70k or at leas an extensive rebuild. I never said they lasted, I said they were good engines.

Originally posted by gtrsithis is way of base. The supra was one of the few cars that is desgined for open track use. Look man I have no idea where you get your info from but next time you are at an open invite event take a look around at the supra's in attendence. they have plenty of power and handling for any little ferrari.

Ok, did I ever say that the supra had horrible handling? NO. What I said (or maybe what I meant) was if you are running 700-800hp on a Supra, it's handling won't be the same, and is more likely to spin. Do you think Toyota built a Supra for a race track thinking it would have over 500 horsepower? And, pardon my language, but are you ****ing kidding me? The F50 GT can almost keep up with indy cars! If a supra can outdo that car, then the 2 owners of the $7million+ F50 GT's would have supras right now. I'm not saying supras are bad or slow or have bad handling, I actually love supras. But don't go saying that it can beat most Ferraris, and if you truely think that they can, that's cool, but facts are facts. People wouldn't spend 100k+ on a car if they could pay 30k+ for a car that could outdo it. Anyway, on a track you will never get over 150, so all these supra's pulling 7's on the 1/4 mile better have some damn good breaks, or they will be off the track for a while. Ferraris are built for the racetrack, supras are built to be on the street. Come down to Louisiana on Nov. 4 (think that's the date) when they have the huge FCA meet. Bring a 1000+hp supra too, and lets see who will be faster. I know who I'll be putting my money on.

[GT]

wooo,
I am about to open a big can here. Why do you think a stock motor supra can handle the big numbers? It was absolutly designed for the average Joe to build a super car.

Make sure to invite your local miata club to any of your track events. There was a great vid on miata.net of a bone stock NB miata(99+) at Lugan seca. About half a lap he was all over this snot nosed Ferrari owner who he wouldnt let pass. by turn 2 he finally let the miata by Its kinda funny to watch a ferrari/vet/viper pull away on the straights and then a turn or 2 later the miatas are rubbing there 'cute' noses all over ferrari butts. DO you guys invite other cars to your events?

Side note: The CRX you want is an 88 Hf, I wouldnt bother with the other trims or model years.

jb