Gutter ball for "Bowling for Columbine"! (long)

[Collegeboy]

I am not changing my argument. If you read I said you should get away from the robber and only if he/she finds you and poses a threat should you unleash the bat.

It is your attitude that I can stop this that gets people killed, for the sake of your family I hope you don't try and stop an armed robber.

I am not saying it will result from a Wild West type shoot out. But if you look at the possibilities of what will happen when you introduce a gun to another guy with a gun, it is not good.

Don't worry your position baffles me just as much.

Anyone what to attempt to answer the question I posed.

Also if I am trolling then you are too along with everyone else.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
I am not changing my argument. If you read I said you should get away from the robber and only if he/she finds you and poses a threat should you unleash the bat.

It is your attitude that I can stop this that gets people killed, for the sake of your family I hope you don't try and stop an armed robber.

I am not saying it will result from a Wild West type shoot out. But if you look at the possibilities of what will happen when you introduce a gun to another guy with a gun, it is not good.

Don't worry your position baffles me just as much.

Anyone what to attempt to answer the question I posed.

Also if I am trolling then you are too along with everyone else.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Rooster
"Why dont you actually read the whole thing before you pass judgement? Im not going to even remotely consider thinking over this reply which merely was written on a pick and choose basis, reading, remember, what you want to. The dumbest thing? Why dont you actually back up your immature comments by telling me WHY its the dumbest thing, rather than some off topic meaningless crowbar story? You never even said why it was "teh dumbest thing ever!!!1!1!" Why dont you be a little more thorough in your useless replies next time eh?"

Your ignorant post didn't deserve a more meaningful responce. This one doesn't either.

Again with this! You have no reasoning behind your judgment. Do you even have a reason to have the crappy oppinnion that you have? Why dont you just turn your back to this one if you cant even come up with good posting...Are you to stupid? Look up ignorant my friend and tell me whats "ignorant" about my post? My ignorant post didnt deserve a response and this one doesnt either? HELLO bad usage and mechanics!

[Skreemer]

[luke]

quote:Originally posted by Army
Uh-Uh CB, I answered your original question a while ago, now I answered your edited question...just like everyone else has.

quote:Originally posted by CB: Do not call that my "opinion" either, what I wrote is fact. See? You did twist my words.
My question has been the same since the begining I do believe.

Actually the VERY first question was "Why does the average citizen feel like they need to own a mini gun?" The question was rephrased as the thread grew.

quote:Originally posted by CB:
I do not think that it is the right of "US people" to own a mini gun, or an automatic weapon or any other mass destruction weapons.

I found this statement somewhat troubling. If I remember correctly you were/are against war with Saddam. So I must assume what you are really saying here, is that what you would like to see is only crazy people armed with weapons of mass destruction.

quote:Originally posted by CB: The sad fact is people are trying to discredit him, instead of answering his basic questions. Why is it that we feel the need of a gun to remain safe? Why is it that we feel we have to have a gun? Why is it that we are so gun crazy? Why is it that you can get a gun at a bank for opening up an account? Why is it that in the same store I can buy toilet paper, and food, I can also buy a gun and ammunition?

The answers are in the original post, like many people you really don't what the answer, you would just rather argue and complain, which is sadly typical of people with you political views. Even if YOU know your wrong, pride prevents you from admitting it.

quote:Originally posted by CB:
Like I said I agree that we need to address the gun issue, but I don't agree with the stretching of the truth.
(funny and odd statement coming from a liberal )

quote:Originally posted by CB:
Why do you need a gun to make yourself feel safe at home?
Very simple, because governments of the world use them, police use them, criminals use them, and wackos out to take what doesn't belong to them use them. Lets not forget, it's my constitutional right to bear arms. To pass judgment on responsible people bearing arms is misplaced concern.

PART 1) quote:Originally posted by CB:
it was farmers with their shotguns that defeated the Brits (over exaggeration but ok).

Where would we be today if "these everyday people" didn't have the right back then to own firearms?

PART 2) quote:Originally posted by CB:
While in other countries the gun is looked at as an evil incarnation that shouldn't be in the hands of the general populace.

The answer is starring you in the face, you really don't see it?


quote:Originally posted by CB
And that is your opinion. A 6'5" intruder can be handled very easy by a 5'6" woman without the needs of a gun. How do all the woman in other countries do it?
You mean like the women in Afghanistan before 9/11?


quote:Originally posted by CB
I have no idea where you get this reality and me being far from it bit.

VERY interesting point! (I know it was taken out of context, but I couldn't resist.....

quote:Originally posted by CB
And no beside Army no one has answered the complete question.

Will you ever enlighten us with an with a point your trying to make? I'm getting a little anxious.....

quote:Originally posted by CB
Ok but throwing out percentages on the slim chance that this happens what will happen because of this. If the guy is intent on killing you then he will, he will be prepared, and nothing you can do can stop him.

Thanks but no thanks, I'll play the odds.

quote:Originally posted by CB
you can call 911 and hide

"Cough" typical.
For some reason this don't surprise me, keeping your political views in mind.


By the way it's not fair to constantly change your question then complain that no one has answered it. It's been answered over and over again. If your ACTUALLY trying to make a point, I wish you would get to it. That's the biggest problem with view points such as yours, is that there is never a solution to what your arguing about, or at least not one that will work in the real world.



(JUST FOR FUN)
quote:Originally posted by shartly: By making guns "illegal" you don't remove the problem.

Come on now you know better than that, you remember how they cleaned up the drinking problem. Prohibition. (Not to mention marijuana, and how nobody has smoked it since it was outlawed!)

[1stdeadeye]

Rain Man

Originally posted by Collegeboy
I am not changing my argument. If you read I said you should get away from the robber and only if he/she finds you and poses a threat should you unleash the bat.

You are a fool. A bat cannot guarantee you stop an intruder. A gun can! Further you assume that we want to kill that robber. If someone break's into my home, while they deserve to die, I will try not to kill them. Do you know what kind of mess they would leave? You have no duty to retreat in your own home. Someone breaks in, I am expelling them by any means necessary! I will never hide and hope that the criminal's goodwill will safeguard my family. I have received quite a bit of firearms training and have no qualms about killing an intruder IF NEED BE!

You said a women could stop you with a bat? Then you must be a wimp. I could walk through a swing from a bat from my wife or sister in law.

It is your attitude that I can stop this that gets people killed, for the sake of your family I hope you don't try and stop an armed robber.

An armed robber is armed for a reason. They don't carry weapons for self defense. I do! I bet I am a better shot then that robber! Further, he will never reach the second story of my home alive! When my wife and kids are involved, I'll kill any SOB that threatens them and not lose a minute of sleep over it.

I travel for work quite a bit. Knowing my wife is armed and can defend herself and the kids gives me quite a bit of peace of mind. Maybe you will understand this CB when you get married and have kids. I have to worry about more then myself. My brother was vehemently anti-gun until my neice was born. He bought a shotgun one month later. He taught my sister in law how to use it. Resposibilities will alter your perceptions!

I am not saying it will result from a Wild West type shoot out. But if you look at the possibilities of what will happen when you introduce a gun to another guy with a gun, it is not good.

Odds are it won't. If I rack a shotgun, odds are I'll be cleaning up a pile of crap from wherever the robber was when he heard me chamber it. I may also need to clean up some broken glass from the window he dove out of!

Don't worry your position baffles me just as much.

Anyone what to attempt to answer the question I posed.

Also if I am trolling then you are too along with everyone else.

You are Rain Man. Definitely, definitely!

Aarron Mag-
WHy can't I use outrageous examples? CB does!

[shartley]

Originally posted by luke
(JUST FOR FUN)
quote:Originally posted by shartly: By making guns "illegal" you don't remove the problem?.

Come on now you know better than that, you remember how they cleaned up the drinking problem. Prohibition. (Not to mention marijuana, and how nobody has smoked it since it was outlawed!)

[Miscue]

This is the issue: What CB defends is his religion, and there is no sense in trying to kill his god. There is no sense in reasoning with him with logic, because he is completely oblivious to it - he does not know how to use it, and does not know how to recognize it... only what is "pleasing" to him he believes makes sense. The truth is not what is "pleasing," although it can be. He says he has an argument... he does not. He has an opinion. A stupid opinion.

What disturbs me is that he's not the only one. But luckily for us, our governmental philosophy is that of mob rule - Democracy. And with this, we can group together and democratically take control over these psychologically impaired groups who should have no power, and force them under a policy that best suits us.

I can own a gun. I can own a concealed weapon with a permit. I can defend myself with a gun if I need to, even if you do not like it... and you can't do a damn thing about it... and you never will be able to... because you should not be able to.

I don't live in fear... that's something you made up, but I get a little nervous when Congress is in session.

I retire from this thread...

[Rebel46_99]

I have a question for CB.....

If you are a paintball player..... Do you play with a paintball marker(gun) OR a baseball bat???

Sam, Army, Miscue.... the answer to this one ought to be really interesting. LOL

DW

[Miscue]

He throws bingo dabber tipped spears.

Ok, I'm done now.

[1stdeadeye]

Funny!

Originally posted by Miscue
He throws bingo dabber tipped spears.

Ok, I'm done now.

LOL!

I just thought CB hid behind a bunker in the back waiting for the other team to go away and leave him in peace!

[shartley]

Re: Funny!

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
LOL!

I just thought CB hid behind a bunker in the back waiting for the other team to go away and leave him in peace!

Now THAT is funny!

(I had much to post on that idea, but think it is best to just let it rest. )

[Collegeboy]

[Rebel46_99]

C B... Whether you think it's immature or not doesn't mean..... a hill of beans one way or the other. The principle is the same. (Something that you have used on numerous occasions in this thread and others.)

Answer the question! (This seems to be your favorite refrain.)

DW

P.S. WHY do you constantly use the words "Chances Are", "Suppose", "IF", etc.... etc..... And yet not accept them from anyone else, ALWAYS demanding FACTS?

[shartley]

Originally posted by Collegeboy